Re: Another Hypothesis

Eduardo G. Moros (moros@castor.wustl.edu)
Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:52:48 -0600

In other words, since no human fossils have been found in those sites it means
that there were no humans there at that time.

Glenn Morton wrote:
>
> Hi Eduardo,
> At 10:40 AM 12/18/97 -0600, Eduardo G. Moros wrote:
> >This is directed mainly to Glenn Morton.
> >
> >Since Humans and Neanderthals lived side-by-side IT IS POSSIBLE that humans
> >were the ones who buried the hominids. Following your line of thinking from
> >modern times to the ancient past I may add that, (hypothesizing here) since I
> >certainly see humans burying their beloved pets today in ritualistics ways, I
> >see no reason why ancient humans did not do the same with their domesticated
> >and beloved hominids. Tarzan would have done so with cheeta. Another "Just
> >so" story for the record.
>
> This will not work, because in Europe the oldest burials are ONLY
> Neanderthal with NO anatomically modern humans found at all. The earliest
> burials were those of Neanderthals (Trinkaus and Shipman). Thus your
> hypothesis would require that modern men buried their pets but not
> themselves. Interesting.
>
> The earliest european Neanderthal burial dates before 70,000 years probably
> closer to 76,000 years ago (Mellars). The earliest European burial of an
> anatomically modern man is 33,000 years ago. There were no anatomically
> modern men to bury the Neanderthal. It seems your hypothesis has a pet but
> no master.
>
> The fact is that the oldest, dated, unquestioned, anatomically modern human in
> Europe is 33,850 years ago (Smith 1982, p. 680)
>
> Reference
>
> Trinkaus and Shipman, The Neandertals, Vintage Books, 1994, p. 418
>
> Paul Mellars, The neanderthal Legacy (Princeton: Princeton University Press,
> 1996), p. 404.
>
> Smith, Fred H., 1982. "Upper Pleistocene Hominid Evolution in South-Central
> Europe: A Review of the Evidence and Analysis of Trends," Current
> Anthropology, 23(1982):6:667-703.
>
> glenn
>
> Adam, Apes, and Anthropology: Finding the Soul of Fossil Man
>
> and
>
> Foundation, Fall and Flood
> http://www.isource.net/~grmorton/dmd.htm