Re: Another Hypothesis (2)

Eduardo G. Moros (moros@castor.wustl.edu)
Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:56:58 -0600

As I said, they are "just so" stories.

And I repeat, I never said you were wrong and I never said you were right. I
said you seem to be stretching it, didn't I?

Glenn Morton wrote:
>
> Thank you Eduardo, this is worth listening to.
>
> At 04:51 PM 12/18/97 -0600, Eduardo G. Moros wrote:
> >Hypothesis based on the knowledge that Humans and Neanderthals were
> contemporaries
> >
> >===========================================================================
> ======
> >Hypothesis (2)
> >
> >The good thing about an hypothesis is that it will make think. So I've been
> >doing a bit more thinking on my inferences based on the fact that Humans and
> >Neanderthals lived side-by-side.
>
> The problem with this is that Neanderthal lived on Earth long before
> anatomically modern men ever appeared. The earliest Neanderthal was found
> at Pontnewydd Cave, England and is dated to 225,000 years ago. (Chris
> Stringer and Clive Gamble, In Search of the Neanderthals, (New York: Thames
> and Hudson, 1993), p. 66)
>
> The earliest anatomically modern man first appears arond 110-120,000 years
> ago at Klasies River Mouth Cave, South Africa. (Donald C. Johanson, Lenora
> Johanson, and Blake Edgar, Ancestors, (New York: Villard Books, 1994), p. 239)
>
> Now given this fact, your statements below are totally wrong.
>
> >
> >It is known that some "tools" have been found along with hominid remains.
> >Well, it is rather a common occurrance nowadays to see your dog take one of
> >your shoes or a wooden instrument such as a good hammer to play with it and
> >even bury it for a later snack. So I postulate that the same time of
> >ocurrance could have taken place long ago. The humans being a bit smarter
> >than their clumsy Neanderthals pets were able to domesticate them. Some of
> >these pets, I'm sure, like our contemporary pets liked to play with the
> >"tools" humans spent so much time putting together. This is not so hard to
> >imagine if one considers that these "tools" were routinely used for defleshing
> >animals (and other humans) for consumption. I supposed it is not so hard to
> >believe that the smell of blood would have enticed the hominids. Actually,
> >even those hominids that were not pets but while beasts probably took such
> >tools with them for later snacks. I think I saw an episode where cheeta did
> >something similar to Tarzan for which Tarzan was not very happy. I beg you
> >pardon me for yet another "Just so" story for the record.
>
> Since the "pet" was found with tools LONG before the "master" arrived on the
> scene, it would appear that the 'pet' was making the tools for himself.
> Also Homo erectus made tools and he never lived side by side with modern man
> (except maybe in Java).
>
> glenn
>
> Adam, Apes, and Anthropology: Finding the Soul of Fossil Man
>
> and
>
> Foundation, Fall and Flood
> http://www.isource.net/~grmorton/dmd.htm