Re: [asa] Collins discussed on Uncommon Descent

I think it's wise to see the idea of intelligent design as one weapon - an important one to be sure - of a religious-ethical-political movement in the culture wars. Surely the wedge strategy should have made that clear long ago. That being said, certainly some of the ID claims - I think especially of Behe - would have been made even had there not been that movement but they would not have received as much attention - & to be fair, would not have roused such animosity in the scientific community - without it.

Shalom
George
http://home.roadrunner.com/~scitheologyglm

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  From: Schwarzwald
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  Or it could be that there is an honest interest in the science apart from specific theological concerns, but there are also cultural and theological aspects to the debate. It would be just as easy to argue that many of the people who dedicate quite a lot of time to defending "Darwinism" have only a marginal concern about science and science education, and are actually operating primarily with social, philosophical, and even political goals in mind.

  I don't think it's wise to regard ID in general, or even UD in particular as being concerned "mostly about religious and ethical issues" with science being little more than a rider.

  On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, George Murphy <GMURPHY10@neo.rr.com> wrote:

    The fact that UD's initial attack on Collins focues on abortion is significant. Of course "Darwinism" is pulled in but the primary concern has little to do with science. This makes it clear - if anyone didn't realize it already - that "the Intelligent Design community" which UD says its serving is concerned mostly about religious and ethical issues, & science is of interest only to the extent that it impacts those interests.

    Shalom
    George
    http://home.roadrunner.com/~scitheologyglm

    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Davis" <TDavis@messiah.edu>
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    Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:33 PM
    Subject: [asa] Collins discussed on Uncommon Descent

      Francis Collins' nomination is being discussed over on UD, and I added my two cents to that conversation this morning.

      http://www.uncommondescent.com/darwinism/genome-mapper-francis-collins-picked-to-head-nih-touted-as-evangelical-is-that-fair-to-either-side

      As Jack Haas recently noted, this might be a good time to say something in his defense.

      Ted

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