Re: [asa] Religious Groups Differ on Climate Change

My review covers _three_ papers. One establishes the Levy component in
solar irradiance, one finds a Levy component with a similar complexity
exponent in earth teperature records, and the third establishes a
mechanism for synchronization of earth climate with solar irradiance
variations. The closeness of the complexity indices causes a resonance
effect that provides a climate variation much larger than the 0.1%
variation in solar irradiance. I've read the paper realclimate
complains about and I don't see any of the differencing approaches
they complain about. They do everything with wavelets, not
differencing.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:42 PM, John Burgeson (ASA member)
<hossradbourne@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is also a review of an earlier version of this paper on RealClimate at
>
> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/10/how-not-to-attribute-climate-change/#more-351
>
> Burgy
>
> On 4/25/09, William Hamilton <willeugenehamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I promised a review of Scafetta et. al.'s work on my blog. It's now
>> up: http://www.bricolagia.blogspot.com/
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:21 AM, William Hamilton
>> <willeugenehamilton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think it has something to do with the fact that many evangelicals
>>> have embraced conservative economics. Walter Williams, a conservative
>>> economist, has written about global warming:
>>> http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/08/GlobalWarmingRope-A-Dope.htm
>>> I don't know Williams religious persuasion. Other conservative
>>> economists generally deplore doomsday theories (e.g. Julian Simon
>>> http://www.juliansimon.com/)
>>> Perhaps another factor is the belief that God is in control -- the
>>> world will end at  time of God's choosing, not before, not after (Matt
>>> 24:36)
>>>
>>> For my part I wouldn't call myself an AGW skeptic, but before we adopt
>>> government-mandated solutions that require massive adjustments and may
>>> lead to extreme poverty in many parts of the world, we'd better know
>>> what we're talking about. One series of papers that makes me wonder if
>>> IPCC has considered all the evidence may be found in the work of
>>> Nicola Scafetta and his colleagues.
>>> http://www.fel.duke.edu/~scafetta/. The IPCC's arguments seem to be
>>> based primarily on the increase of atmospheric CO2 in the past
>>> century. They discount the solar irradiance as a factor because it
>>> varies by only 0.1 percent.  However, Scafetta et. al. analyze the
>>> sun/earth heat propagation using stochastic resonance theory and find
>>> that there is indeed a resonance-like phenomenon that makes the solar
>>> contribution much greater than 0.1 percent. This does not negate
>>> global warming, but may establish that considerably more of it is due
>>> to solar irradiance than IPCC believes. Scafetta et. al.'s papers are
>>> not easy reading. However I have written a review that provides  a
>>> road map through them, a first draft of which I will be glad to email
>>> to anyone interested. (I'll put it on my blog as soon as I can get
>>> around to editing some of the HTML I need)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Iain Strachan <igd.strachan@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://scienceandreligiontoday.blogspot.com/2009/04/religious-groups-disagree-on-climate.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See above from the Science and Religion Today Blog.
>>>>
>>>> It pretty much says what we already know, but I am puzzled, and perhaps
>>>> someone over your side can explain to me.  Why is it that white
>>>> evangelical
>>>> protestants seem to have the biggest opposition to the notion that
>>>> climate
>>>> change is caused by human activity?
>>>>
>>>> I can't see the connection with Christian belief.  I can understand why
>>>> fundamentalists oppose evolution & see it as a threat to their faith.
>>>> But
>>>> why climate change (in particular as caused by human activity)?
>>>>
>>>> Just a naive question that I hope someone can explain to me.
>>>>
>>>> Iain
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Non timeo sed caveo
>>>>
>>>> -----------
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> William E (Bill) Hamilton Jr., Ph.D.
>>> Member American Scientific Affiliation
>>> Austin, TX
>>> 248 821 8156
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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