RE: [asa] Lincoln and Darwin

Moorad -

I figured you'd point that out! Yes, once the idea of understanding gravitation in terms of a Riemannian metric has been conceived, a mathematician can come up with an action principle that will give the field equations. But it was the realization that the problems of (a) getting a relativistic theory of gravitation & (b) allowing accelerated reference were fundamentally the same problem because of the equivalence of gravitational & inertial mass that was he real stroke of genius. & that idea required a physicist, not just a mathematician.

Shalom,
George

---- "Alexanian wrote:
> George,
>
> Do not forget that David Hilbert wrote "Einstein’s equations" before Einstein did.
>
> Moorad
>
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> To: asa@calvin.edu; gordon brown
> Subject: Re: [asa] Lincoln and Darwin
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> Certainly Wallace came up with natural selection independently of Darwin. Calculus was "in the air" in the mid-17th century & would soon have been arrived at sans Newton. In fact a good case can be made for Leibniz' independent discovery. Others were on the verge of special relativity before Einstein. It's not at all so clear, however, that _general_ relativity would have been discovered by anyone else, at least not for quite awhile.
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> Shalom,
> George
>
> ---- gordon brown <Gordon.Brown@Colorado.EDU> wrote:
> > Today is the bicentennial of both Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin.
> > Maybe this is an appropriate occasion to reflect on the impact of
> > individual scientists versus the impact of individuals in certain other
> > professions.
> >
> > Several years ago TIME Magazine named Albert Einstein as its Person of the
> > 20th Century. I read a comment by someone who suggested that that was a
> > mistake. He thought that Winston Churchill should have had that
> > distinction. His reasoning was that if Einstein had not accomplished what
> > he did in physics, others would have.
> >
> > It occurs to me that this observation might be made of individual
> > scientists in general. How many discoveries or ideas that had a major
> > influence on the development of science depended on the individual persons
> > who produced them? Wouldn't someone else have thought of natural
> > selection? (Some would say that Wallace did independently.) We would be
> > using calculus and Newton's laws today even if Newton had never lived. By
> > contrast, many wars started by megalomaniacs have profoundly affected the
> > direction of world history, as have the heroes who prevented them from
> > attaining their goals. Even so, we rightly admire the impressive
> > accomplishments of the individuals who were first to come up with
> > solutions to significant questions in science.
> >
> > Even though few people accomplish what noone else could, as Christians we
> > do know one man who did what noone else could have done: Jesus Christ.
> >
> > Gordon Brown (ASA member)
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Dick Fischer wrote:
> > > I think it is one thing for a religious organization, and in this case a
> > > major religion, to admit to previous mistakes. It's quite another to
> > > celebrate them. It's in that same vein that I have some misgivings about
> > > celebrating Darwin. Okay, he was a brilliant scientist and made a major
> > > contribution to our understanding of biology. But somehow I feel overtones
> > > that serve to be a slap in the face to our Christian beliefs. Maybe I'm
> > > just being over sensitive but if I were a pastor and Darwin Week was coming
> > > up (it is) I don't think I would prepare a special sermon to mark the
> > > occasion. I would prefer a science week to honor great scientists and group
> > > Darwin in with Kepler, Newton, Einstein and others. I would rather
> > > celebrate science than just Darwin. I think it has the unfortunate
> > > ramification of sending the wrong message or at the very least a mixed
> > > message.
> >
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