Re: [asa] Yes -- the YECs are still winning

> So why is "a devotion to Christ" important?
Because we are Christians. A "devotion to Christ" indicates just that. Not a devotion to Buddha, etc. I think this group is absolutely wonderful. Do I agree with all of you on all issues? No. But we aren't debating whether Buddha is better than Christ - I wouldn't be here if that were the case. We discuss the issues around the integration of science and faith - with Faith being Christianity. YEC's are certainly Christians. I think there are some people who call themselves Christians - who (in my opinion) probably aren't. But building walls won't help them to become better Christians or us to try and help them to become better Christians.

James Patterson
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So why is "a devotion to Christ" important? That's a doctrinal statement too.
> I can understand someone who asserts "Jesus is not Lord" but not one who says "Jesus is Lord but I'm not claiming
> that that is true."
>
> Shalom,
> George
>
>
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> ---- "John Burgeson (ASA member)" wrote:
> > On 2/5/09, Dehler, Bernie wrote:
> > >
> > > A question: Why not have a position against YEC since this is a group of
> > > scientists who reject a young earth because it goes against science? Their
> > > name alone disqualifies them in science- "young earth" (unlike 'old earth'
> > > or titles with 'evolutionist' in it).
> >
> > I understand the argument here. But I will argue against it.
> >
> > I am personally uncomfortable with the ASA taking such a position. In
> > all Christian groups there are "fence builders" and "bridge builders."
> > I think the former do a disservice to the faith, regardless of their
> > stated motivations.
> >
> > I am reminded of the Christmas card we got last December from an old
> > friend who proudly stated that he and his wife had left their
> > denomination "to affiliate with those who say "Jesus is the Way"
> > rather than "Jesus is a way." If our fellowship depends on doctrinal
> > orthodoxy -- or on anything except a devotion to Christ -- it may not
> > be worth very much.
> >
> > Finally, there are some YECs who hold that position while admitting
> > the scientific data does not support it. I presume some are
> > scientists, and therefore eligible as anyone else to be ASA members. I
> > don't have to agree with their thinking to have fellowship with them!
> >
> > Even such persons as Henry Morris and Duane Gish, who continue to
> > argue YEC on the basis of bad science, I count as friends (I know --
> > Henry has gone on). Our common bond in Christ trumps all.
> >
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