Re: [asa] Yet again i seek help (Iain s???)

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:32:17 +0900 Michael Roberts
<michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>Iain
>
>You focus on the major problem of evolution/creation on
>theological grounds.
>
>Viz; was there any suffering , animal or human before the Fall.
<SNIP>
>Second; if there was no suffering before the Fall then T Rex
>couldn't have
>been shredding herbivores 100 million years ago

Exactly! I agree with you. I think suffering does predate the eden
story. One of those reasons is theological - Satan was satan before
the eden story - the fall. And satan was loose on earth, a dominion
ceded to him by the Creator. It seems to me that evil was already
running loose. :)

>
>Without going into any detail. I don't think the biblical material
>demands
>no death before the Fall and as the evidence for an ancient earth
>is totally
>overwhelming that supports it. This is why I bang on about the
>geology and
>deep time rather than cascading clotting blood (sounds very gory)

Good points!

Iain

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