Re: [asa] Adam and the Fall - correction

No problem! There days I can't remember my own name (especially my last
name...)

I'm not sure I'd have a reason to take your comments personally...

Take Care,
Bethany

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Gregory Arago <gregoryarago@yahoo.ca>wrote:

> Please forgive me *Bethany*, inadvertently in the post below I misspelled
> your name! :( Hopefully you will take neither it, nor my comments on the
> quotations from Denis' book, personally! - Sincerely, Gregory
>
> --- On *Thu, 11/13/08, Gregory Arago <gregoryarago@yahoo.ca>* wrote:
>
> From: Gregory Arago <gregoryarago@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: RE: [asa] Adam and the Fall
> To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>, "Dick Fischer" <dickfischer@verizon.net>
> Received: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 1:05 AM
>
> Dick, I can offer one answer to this question, in two parts: 1) Denis
> is not a historian and 2) Denis is strongly against YEC (just like the
> geologists are), i.e. having 'evolved' from that position in his past, so
> there is no possible way any part of it could be true (even a 'real' 'Adam'
> and 'Eve') and Dick's booth probably seemed like a YEC-affiliate by the name
> "Genesis Proclaimed Association."
>
> Unfortunately, as a result Denis didn't read your book, Dick and thus his
> "Adam never existed" is repeated with confidence, though no more than an
> unscientific opinion; it is certainly not a scientific conclusion and
> remains inflexible, exclusivistic and polarizing (at least in the passages
> quoted above).
>
> Actually no, Brittany, I would not call you a 'feminist' for saying what
> you said. But then again 'chauvinistic' is not an opposite to 'feminist,' if
> by 'chauvinistic' one means, as M-W.com writes: "undue partiality or
> attachment to a group or place to which one belongs or has belonged." - G.A.
> p.s. of note: Dick and Denis have interestingly similar profiles (spoken as
> one whose never met either of them), with degrees in theology and science,
> and both also served in the military; both men imo deserve careful attention
> for their contributions to improved understanding in science, theology,
> and (lest we not forget), philosophy.
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 11/13/08, Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net>* wrote:
>
> From: Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net>
> Subject: RE: [asa] Adam and the Fall
> To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
> Received: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 12:43 AM
>
> Ian wrote:
>
>
>
> >But I am convinced that Denis has something substantive to say to us as we
> struggle to faithfully respond to God's revelations of himself through the
> book of God's word and the book of God's works.<
>
>
>
> Denis may have something substantive to say but this isn't it. Having
> myself established a basis to legitimize the historicity of this man we call
> Adam today that the Akkadians called "Adamu" and who had namesakes for
> centuries after he lived, I can say with confidence that there is a high
> degree of likelihood there was just such a man, and I can say without
> hesitation that Denis is totally out to lunch on this issue. And having
> nothing to contribute he should simply vocalize the same. On the subject
> of history, my organization, Genesis Proclaimed Association had a booth at a
> recent Faculty Commons Leadership conference in Arlington, VA. Denis was
> there and came up to my booth and introduced himself. My book, *Historical
> Genesis from Adam to Abraham* was available at a discount price. He
> didn't buy it. So how can he deliberately avoid exposure to the evidence
> and then make public pronouncements that such evidence doesn't exist? Heck,
> I would have given him the book.
>
>
>
> Dick Fischer, GPA president
>
> Genesis Proclaimed Association
>
> "Finding Harmony in Bible, Science and History"
>
> www.genesisproclaimed.org
>
>
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