Re: [asa] RE: Apologetics Conference 2008

1. Why aren't the reasons he gives good enough? If TE is true, if some form
of ID is true, or if some form of progressive creationism or otherwise is
true, he sees no biblical conflict or threat to his faith. So he has no
theological pressure to commit - and since the whole debate is politically
charged, plenty of reason to be cautious.
2. 'Accepts evolution' is loaded. The same book where he shows an acceptance
of evolution is the same book where he's arguing that there is tremendous
design apparent in evolution, along within other natural settings - he
accepts evolution in a way markedly different from, say, Ken Miller.
Besides, what's being appealed to are Denton's arguments - not Denton
himself. If Darwin recanted and dismissed all his theories on his deathbed,
would it be improper to refer to his earlier works if it was believed the
points were persuasive?

BTW - I assume you'll take back the charge that WLC is a coward? Since in
this article and apparently his podcast (I have yet to listen to it), he not
only discusses evolution, but argues that it's entirely compatible with
Christianity, and doesn't even require interventions in order to be so.
Rather speaks against the idea that he's afraid of talking about this
subject, or against defending a 'naturally unfolding' biological world.

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>wrote:

> Thanks for that link. Two things:
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> 1. He claims to be agnostic on the fact of evolution. I wonder why
> that is… I mean the real reason.
> 2. He appeals to Michael Denton for arguments against evolution. Just
> like my Theology teacher did. Then I found out, after finishing the class,
> Denton's book (Evolution in Crisis) was really old and now Denton accepts
> evolution! Why appeal to the old Denton when the new Denton no longer
> believes it ???
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> …Bernie
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> *From:* asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Schwarzwald
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 09, 2008 10:50 PM
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> Funny timing in that regard. Just today WLC updated Reasonable Faith about
> this very topic.
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> http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/PageServer?pagename=q_and_a
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> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
> wrote:
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> Looking at their agenda- looks like evolution is not a topic. From
> listening to William Lane Craig, I get the impression that he dodges the
> question of evolution at every opportunity. He's afraid to address it
> head-on in my experience. I've listened to a lot of his podcasts. I like
> him a lot- just think he is a coward in that respect... especially since he
> claims to be on the forefront of apologetics.
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> My guess is he thinks that the Christian faithful isn't yet ready to accept
> evolution, and so he avoids it, by saying other philosophical points make
> the debate unimportant. (The evidence for a Creator means you don't have to
> accept a naturalistic godless universe... but what about evolution as God's
> method of design??? I don't think he'll address it.)
>
> ...Bernie
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [asa] Apologetics Conference 2008
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> http://apologeticsconference.com/ <http://apologeticsconference.com/>
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> November 20-22, 2008
> Smithfield, Rhode Island
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> Inspirational Speakers:
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> Paul Copan
> Gary Habermas
> Craig Evans
> Darrell Bock
> Charles Quarles
> Brett Kunkle
> And Many More <http://apologeticsconference.com/speakers.html <
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