Re: [asa] Re: [asa] Review of “Adam's Ancestors” by David Livingstone

John:
Thanks for fixing the link. Just to clarify what I meant by CT's
progressiveness: I did not mean the discussion of evolution & faith (they
have been opening up that conversation for some time - and taking some heat
for it) - it was the fact that they have an atheist reviewing a book of this
nature. I suspect many will take this as further evidence that they have
crossed the line (ie. outside of "Evangelical Conviction" as their motto
states).

Schwarzwald:

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Schwarzwald <schwarzwald@gmail.com> wrote:

> It doesn't seem like much of a book review - is it really meant to be? It's
> mostly just Ruse being Ruse, thinking out loud about the subject of
> pre-Adamites.

That is probably true. It is more a reaction than a review - which seems
like a pretty common practice these days.

> I think Chesterton said (John C. Wright has repeated this one often) that
> the doctrine of the fall is one of the most obvious teachings in
> Christianity - you only have to look around (or really, look at yourself) to
> see evidence that man has an imperfect, flawed nature and is in need of
> assistance from on high.

Actually, it is not the doctrine of the Fall that is empirically obvious,
but the doctrine of original sin - ie. that we are all sinners. That
everyone is a sinner from birth is clear; how we as humanity got to this
state is not necessarily that clear. George Murphy's article "Roads to
Paradise and Perdition: Christ, Evolution and Original
Sin<http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2006/PSCF6-06Murphy.pdf>"
is relevant here. He uses the metaphor "Lost in the Woods".

thanks,

-- 
Steve Martin (CSCA)
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