Re: [asa] Culture Wars Come to New Zealand

I wrote:

> "I read "The Privileged Planet" and as I remember it does not challenge
> biological evolution. "
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Bernie wrote

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> I can't remember- does it "cherry pick"?
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> For example, sometimes YEC's mention symbiotic relationships- such as how
> an animal needs a plant and vice-versa, and neither could exist without the
> other. What they fail to mention is the other two symbiotic relationships,
> such as when one animal destroys the other or when the effect is neutral.
> They cherry pick only the symbiotic relationship where there is a mutual
> benefit to shows God's marvelous design.
>
This is a bit dangerous -- I left my copy in Austin and won't be back there
before August. But as I remember evolution is not a big part of the book.
They just make a few remarks about evolution that I took to mean that they
accepted it. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

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> *From:* asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *William Hamilton
> *Sent:* Monday, June 30, 2008 4:22 PM
> *To:* Jack Haas
> *Cc:* David Opderbeck; ASA list
> *Subject:* Re: [asa] Culture Wars Come to New Zealand
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> I read "The Privileged Planet" and as I remember it does not challenge
> biological evolution. Mainly it makes the point that earth is in a unique
> region of the galaxy where life is possible, is situated in a solar system
> with large planets to shield earth from space debris, has a large moon which
> stabilizes its axis inclination. In addition the region of space where the
> earth resides is ideal for observation, enabling astronomy and other
> sciences to develop. Gonzalez and his coauthor make similar points to those
> made in "Rare Earth," with a Christian twist.
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> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Jack Haas <haas.john@comcast.net> wrote:
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> David;
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> I am not privy to the thinking of those down under who are offended by an
> American Group trying to influence their schools, have never read the *Privileged
> Planet* and thus can't
> answer your question - sorry. My posting was informational.
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> David Opderbeck wrote:
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> How does The Privileged Planet challenge biological evolution? How would
> viewing The Privileged Planet differ from reading Francis Collins' musings
> on cosmological ID?
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> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Jack Haas <haas.john@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Christian creationists have launched another attempt to introduce
> intelligent design into New Zealand's schools. Focus on the Family
> <http://www.family.org.nz/>recently sent intelligent design (ID) material
> (*The Privileged Plane*t CD and booklet) to 400 high schools, requesting
> they be made available to science teachers and school libraries (see Christians
> challenge teaching of evolution <http://www.stuff.co.nz/4599856a10.html>).
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> Focus on the Family's executive director Tim Sisarich said the material was
> intended to expose pupils to an alternative theory of cosmology.
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> *"We're a Christian organisation so we believe that God made the planet
> and God made the cosmos … Science takes a theory and tries to establish it
> as the truth, and that's all this is."*
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> Full Story:
> <http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/culture-wars-come-to-new-zealand/><http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/culture-wars-come-to-new-zealand/>
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