RE: [asa] Culture Wars Come to New Zealand

"I read "The Privileged Planet" and as I remember it does not challenge
biological evolution. "

I can't remember- does it "cherry pick"?

For example, sometimes YEC's mention symbiotic relationships- such as
how an animal needs a plant and vice-versa, and neither could exist
without the other. What they fail to mention is the other two symbiotic
relationships, such as when one animal destroys the other or when the
effect is neutral. They cherry pick only the symbiotic relationship
where there is a mutual benefit to shows God's marvelous design.

...Bernie

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Behalf Of William Hamilton
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:22 PM
To: Jack Haas
Cc: David Opderbeck; ASA list
Subject: Re: [asa] Culture Wars Come to New Zealand

I read "The Privileged Planet" and as I remember it does not challenge
biological evolution. Mainly it makes the point that earth is in a
unique region of the galaxy where life is possible, is situated in a
solar system with large planets to shield earth from space debris, has a
large moon which stabilizes its axis inclination. In addition the region
of space where the earth resides is ideal for observation, enabling
astronomy and other sciences to develop. Gonzalez and his coauthor make
similar points to those made in "Rare Earth," with a Christian twist.

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Jack Haas <haas.john@comcast.net>
wrote:

David;

I am not privy to the thinking of those down under who are offended by
an American Group trying to influence their schools, have never read the
Privileged Planet and thus can't
answer your question - sorry. My posting was informational.

David Opderbeck wrote:

How does The Privileged Planet challenge biological evolution? How
would viewing The Privileged Planet differ from reading Francis Collins'
musings on cosmological ID?

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:13 AM, Jack Haas <haas.john@comcast.net>
wrote:

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Christian creationists have launched another attempt to introduce
intelligent design into New Zealand's schools. Focus on the Family
<http://www.family.org.nz/> recently sent intelligent design (ID)
material (The Privileged Planet CD and booklet) to 400 high schools,
requesting they be made available to science teachers and school
libraries (see Christians challenge teaching of evolution
<http://www.stuff.co.nz/4599856a10.html> ).

Focus on the Family's executive director Tim Sisarich said the material
was intended to expose pupils to an alternative theory of cosmology.

"We're a Christian organisation so we believe that God made the planet
and God made the cosmos ... Science takes a theory and tries to
establish it as the truth, and that's all this is."

Full Story:
<http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/culture-wars-come-to-new-
zealand/>
<http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/culture-wars-come-to-new-
zealand/>
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Jack Haas

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