Re: [asa] Creationism Conference

"Science is a "fuzzy math" and a blood-bought Baptist must have a spirit of discernment to see through secular science's toxic cloud of confusion. They mislead the public by creating different names for themselves. They say, "I'm a psychologist," or "I'm a therapist or microbiologist." Poppy-cock! That's what it is. They are nothing more than Satanists with spectacles and pockets full of pencils and rulers. In fact, the word "scientist" is actually Latin for "Satanist." Do they take Christians for fools?"  (http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1100/science.html)

 
After traveling through parts of your New England territory for the first time, all I can say is 'Whoa! Do these people really believe what they say they believe....and how???' I sat in on an 'Old Revival' in Boston and still hear the divisive words of your Red-Blue political circus. Is this a model for the world to follow? A 'new Eden'? Bred by literalistic-scientific insight and faith?
 
You are a far, far cry from 'unity,' American scientists who are Christians. There is little univocality among you today. Even here at ASA exist avid protestors of 'creation' when it is termed 'creationism' of the 'young' variety. I don't want to try to understand you (as Chekhov said to 'the world' in The Wager). It is better to remain innocent of the diversity of your complaints against Creation, of the relativity of your biblical hermeneutics, of your counter-examples to Adam and Eve. Even as scientists, your understanding of 'science' is most oftentimes devoid of 'context' (persisting in biology- or geology-centrism), which is considered as a 'dirty word' that needn't be acknowledged or respected by the 'American intelligentsia'.
 
Those who have tried to calm or appease the dissenters-to-evolutionism on ASA deserve the credit of tolerance, resisting the obvious chants of conflict-ism between science and theology/religion/faith/spirituality. Those who have clung to their reductionistic-scientistic explanations, even as religious scientists, are as lost as those whom they'd villify for seeking only material explanations for everything. Reductionism, scientism and materialism are, after all, obviously in bed with each other. There is apparently little holism (let me repeat HOLISM) sought to unify the disparate specialisms of many at ASA; few pseudo-integralists other than concordists or accommodationalists.
 
There is then no mystery remaining for ASA scientists to explain with a reductionistic view. They have said it all. They are on top of the world (or otherwise on its bottom, M. Roberts in England). They are the elite, foolproof. Nearly perfect as perfect can be...aside from their HUMANITY, which they have all but forgotten!!
 
'Creationism' is the only conceivable foil for their literalism-by-nature (Declaration, Constitution) citizenship, disguised as seeking 'pure science' for science's sake. Their priorities are deceived to hide the Dawkins' and Dennett's and Blackmore's of the World. Shall we ('more people') not seek to help them or rather let them wallow in their de-contextualized specialisms?
 
G.A.
 

--- On Mon, 6/23/08, George Cooper <georgecooper@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

My personal request is to get more people here, and some seekers of truth within the YEC camp, to tackle the literal claims of M-Genesis.  My attempts to get people interested in taking the ideas serious seems to fail, though I still await arguments that are logical against those claims. 
 
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Received on Mon Jun 23 18:58:12 2008