RE: [asa] Creationism Conference

Hi Jack, you wrote:
 
>See, this is what I am talking about. Most YECists that I know are not
like this. They are honestly trying to understand Truth. They have a
high regard for scripture, and place their interpretation of it above
anything else. Most don't do it for personal gain, and most are
honestly seeking truth.<
 
I have met many of the leaders at ICR over the years. I have attended
creationist conferences and creation/evolution debates. The last time I
saw Henry (when he was alive) he was autographing Bibles. Those you are
describing are the followers who get innocently caught up in it and lack
the ability or willingness or curiosity to ferret out the truth and
expose the fallacies. They are not speakers at this conference. The
speakers are culpable in my estimation and worthy of scorn. If you
don't think so contact one of them and ask how willing they are to
discuss the errors of their ways. See what reaction you get. Or send
them here and ask for their comments:
 
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2003/PSCF12-03Fischer.pdf
 
Dick Fischer, author, lecturer
Historical Genesis from Adam to Abraham
www.historicalgenesis.com <http://www.historicalgenesis.com/>
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:50 PM
To: Dick Fischer; ASA
Subject: Re: [asa] Creationism Conference
 
"What would
you call those who trample the truth, push their own agenda and get paid
for it, and attribute it all to God?"
 
See, this is what I am talking about. Most YECists that I know are not
like
this. They are honestly trying to understand Truth. They have a high
regard for scripture, and place their interpretation of it above
anything
else. Most don't do it for personal gain, and most are honestly seeking

truth.
 
Unfortunately they have a lot of influence, and also unfortunately they
are
wrong. But I don't think that most of them have illicit motives.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Fischer" <dickfischer@verizon.net>
To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 10:44 PM
Subject: RE: [asa] Creationism Conference
 
 
> Hi Jack, you wrote:
>
>>I have complained on this list before that I think
> that some here forget who the enemy is.<
>
> Or maybe some of us don't know who the enemy is. The "enemy" is
anyone
> who causes someone else to reject the gospel message of Jesus Christ
and
> miss the hope of salvation. Recently I saw quoted that 50 to 90% of
> students who attend college initially as Christians give up their
faith
> by the time they graduate. Why? Because many of those kids come out
of
> home schooling, or Christian schools or Sunday schools with their
faith
> intertwined with creationism. When their creationist ideas are proven
> false in college they discard their faith along with the creationism.
> My own father is one case in point.
>
> It's not just what YECs do to science that galls me. They wrap
> themselves in Scripture and call on a distorted interpretation of the
> Bible to support their case. So they aren't the ones saying the earth
> is young, it is the unerring word of God that mandates it! What would
> you call those who trample the truth, push their own agenda and get
paid
> for it, and attribute it all to God?
>
> Dick Fischer, author, lecturer
> Historical Genesis from Adam to Abraham
> www.historicalgenesis.com
>
>
>
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Received on Sun Jun 22 09:08:17 2008