Re: [asa] Creationism Conference

I know some of the people who will be there, and know them to be intelligent and decent persons of high integrity. So I'm not excited about this crass mockery, and I'm especially uncomfortable with the mention of "lying." I'm certain that the conference will include crankery and ignorance and maybe even some forms of dishonesty, but I'm also quite sure that it will be attended by some scientists with expertise and integrity. In the ASA that I would like to belong to (if it exists), young-earth creationists of competence and integrity would be fully welcome and would feel as comfortable as an evolutionary creationist or design proponent would. I doubt that comments like Dick's give that impression.

I think I understand Dick's response, and I don't want to make it sound like I don't also feel immense frustration and anger when considering the actions of fellow Christians who claim to reject common descent or the ancient earth. But we really don't want to suggest that Mike Gene is the same kind of person that Bill Dembski seems to be, any more than we want to suggest that I am the same kind of person that Richard Dawkins seems to be, or that Andrew Snelling is the same kind of person that Jonathan Sarfati seems to be. Dick's comments would seem to suggest that one cannot expect to find YECs with professional (or personal) integrity. I know this to be untrue.

Oh, and one of these years (next year I hope) I intend to attend an ICC, and I would expect to be treated with respect and decency, maybe even with warm hospitality. Wouldn't it be great if our listserv and/or our meetings could be characterized like that?

Steve Matheson, who isn't for a moment suggesting that we oughtn't be strongly critical of bad ideas

>>> "Dick Fischer" <dickfischer@verizon.net> 06/21/08 9:19 AM >>>
Looks like a real gathering of eagles. I wonder if "Lying with a
Straight Face" is a title of any of the conference papers?
 
Dick Fischer, author, lecturer
Historical Genesis from Adam to Abraham
 <http://www.historicalgenesis.com> www.historicalgenesis.com
 
2008 International Conference on Creationism
 

This summer, the International Conference on <http://www.icc08.org/>
Creationism (ICC) will be held in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania from August
3-7 at the Radisson Hotel
<http://www.icc08.org/ICCmaptoRadissonHotel10.pdf> Conference Center.
Creation <http://www.csfpittsburgh.org/> Science Fellowship (CSF)
working together with The Institute for Creation Research
<http://www.icr.org/> (ICR) will host this scientific conference
featuring about forty peer-reviewed research papers dealing with the
topic of origins.
The ICC is the world's leading scientific conference for developing the
creation model and will feature about forty
<http://www.icc08.org/schedule.htm> original papers and special evening
presentations by the world's leading creation researchers and speakers
including Andrew Snelling, Russ Humphreys, John Baumgardner, Steve
Austin, John Sanford, John Whitmore, John Hartnett and many more. These
papers, as well as the evening presentations are described on the
conference web site which is www.icc08.org <http://www.icc08.org/> .
This conference will be of special interest to Christian high school and
college science teachers. The papers cover a wide variety of topics
falling into any one of the following categories: Foundations of
Science, Life Sciences, Stellar and Planetary Sciences, Earth Sciences,
Social Sciences and the Humanities. These sessions require
registration.
You have three options for conference registration:
1. Register online at www.icc08.org
2. Use the form on our ICC brochure
<http://www.icc08.org/ICC2008_Brochure.pdf> .
3. Use the special Registration PDF Form
<http://www.icc08.org/reg_form.pdf> available on our web site. It has
form fields so you can type your information and then print it.
The cost is explained in detail with any of the above three resources.
Though the daytime session are technical and require registration, the
evening presentations are free and open to the public. The technical
level of the evening presentations will be appropriate for the average
adult audience. Teenagers, parents, pastors, and anyone interested in
the topic of origins will all find these evening sessions beneficial.
* Sunday, August 3 - Speaker: Dr. Russ Humphreys, PhD
Topic: Why is the "Age-Issue" important to the Origins Debate and in
particular to the Creation Model of Origins?
* Monday, August 4 - Speaker: Steve Austin, PhD
Topic: Understanding the Mud Flow Revolution
* Tuesday, August 5 - Speaker: John Baumgardner, PhD
Topic: Catastrophic Plate Tectonics: A Mechanism for the Flood.
* Wednesday, Aug. 6 - Speaker: Andrew Snelling, PhD
Topic: The Creation Model: Its Past, Its Present and Its Necessary
Future
My responsibility is to coordinate publicity for the ICC conference.
You can help by copying the text of this article to the clipboard and
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yours whom you think would have an interest in this conference. Feel
free to contact me directly with questions. My email address is
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Steve Sobek
ICC Publicity Coordinator
and CEAI Member
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Received on Sat Jun 21 20:05:20 2008