Re: [asa] Phillip Johnson quote on ID

Hi Coope,

Thanks for finding that! I have often been accused of peddling pseudoscience, but I have always made it clear from the start that I do not consider ID or my views to be science. This definition clearly shows I am not peddling pseudoscience.

- Mike Gene
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: George Cooper
  To: asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:48 AM
  Subject: RE: [asa] Phillip Johnson quote on ID

  It is pseudoscience by definition:

  "Pseudoscience is any body of knowledge, methodology, belief, or practice that claims to be scientific but does not follow the scientific method." [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience]

  "Coope"

  From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of George Murphy
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:12 AM
  To: Jon Tandy; 'ASA'
  Subject: Re: [asa] Phillip Johnson quote on ID

  So if there isn't a scientific theory & it's not religion, what is it?

  Shalom
  George
  http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Jon Tandy

    To: 'ASA'

    Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:30 AM

    Subject: [asa] Phillip Johnson quote on ID

    This was mentioned on your blog, but I don't recall that it's been quoted on this list. Phillip Johnson, as interviewed by Berkeley Science Review (http://sciencereview.berkeley.edu/articles.php?issue=10&article=evolution):

    ""I considered [Dover] a loser from the start. Where you have a board writing a statement and telling the teachers to repeat it to the class, I thought that was a very bad idea."

    "I also don't think that there is really a theory of intelligent design at the present time to propose as a comparable alternative to the Darwinian theory, which is, whatever errors it might contain, a fully worked out scheme. There is no intelligent design theory that's comparable. Working out a positive theory is the job of the scientific people that we have affiliated with the movement. Some of them are quite convinced that it's doable, but that's for them to prove.No product is ready for competition in the educational world."

    Jon Tandy

    From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of David Heddle
    Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:17 PM
    To: George Murphy
    Cc: David Opderbeck; ASA
    Subject: Re: [asa] Theistic Evolutionists Clos e Ranks - Let the Bloodletting Begin!

    Here is a recap of Miller's talk when he came to CNU:

    http://helives.blogspot.com/2008/03/kenneth-millers-cnu-talk.html

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