Re: [asa] Phillip Johnson quote on ID

Hi Chris,

And they think that about you. Round and round goes the Culture War.

-Mike Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Barden" <chris.barden@gmail.com>
To: "George Murphy" <GMURPHY10@neo.rr.com>
Cc: "Jon Tandy" <tandyland@earthlink.net>; "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [asa] Phillip Johnson quote on ID

>I vote for "hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human
> tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on
> Christ" (Col 2:8)
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:11 AM, George Murphy <GMURPHY10@neo.rr.com>
> wrote:
>> So if there isn't a scientific theory & it's not religion, what is it?
>>
>> Shalom
>> George
>> http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jon Tandy
>> To: 'ASA'
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:30 AM
>> Subject: [asa] Phillip Johnson quote on ID
>>
>> This was mentioned on your blog, but I don't recall that it's been quoted
>> on
>> this list. Phillip Johnson, as interviewed by Berkeley Science Review
>> (http://sciencereview.berkeley.edu/articles.php?issue=10&article=evolution):
>>
>>
>>
>> ""I considered [Dover] a loser from the start. Where you have a board
>> writing a statement and telling the teachers to repeat it to the class, I
>> thought that was a very bad idea."
>>
>>
>>
>> "I also don't think that there is really a theory of intelligent design
>> at
>> the present time to propose as a comparable alternative to the Darwinian
>> theory, which is, whatever errors it might contain, a fully worked out
>> scheme. There is no intelligent design theory that's comparable. Working
>> out
>> a positive theory is the job of the scientific people that we have
>> affiliated with the movement. Some of them are quite convinced that it's
>> doable, but that's for them to prove…No product is ready for competition
>> in
>> the educational world."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon Tandy
>>
>>
>>
>> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
>> Behalf Of David Heddle
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:17 PM
>> To: George Murphy
>> Cc: David Opderbeck; ASA
>> Subject: Re: [asa] Theistic Evolutionists Clos e Ranks — Let the
>> Bloodletting Begin!
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is a recap of Miller's talk when he came to CNU:
>>
>> http://helives.blogspot.com/2008/03/kenneth-millers-cnu-talk.html
>>
>>
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