Re: [asa] Who's to blame for the lost ones?

Burgy wrote

> Glenn Morton has made the claim many times that it is the YECs who are
> to blame, along with those in the church who swallow their stuff. He
> has at least strong anecdotal evidence to back his claim.

I certainly agree with Glenn that YECism can be a factor in an individual departing from the faith. (As a former Arminian I cannot agree with the Calvinist accusation that Arminians believe one can _lose_ his faith. In the Wesleyan church I came to know the Lord in we believed that an individual could willfully depart from the faith. But _lose_ it? Never)

But my own experience might serve as a counterexample. I encountered YECism shortly after I became a Christian. I decided to investigate it and believed it for a time. But I soon discovered a number of flaws in it. At that point I had to make a decision, and I decided that no matter what I believed about creationism, I believed in Jesus Christ, my savior.

 
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----- Original Message ----
> From: j burg <hossradbourne@gmail.com>
> To: "Dehler, Bernie" <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
> Cc: asa@calvin.edu
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 11:31:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [asa] Who's to blame for the lost ones?
>
> On 6/4/08, Dehler, Bernie wrote: (in part)
>
> > Imagine this, you hear a report at church that 10 kids accepted Christ
> > in the 3rd grade Sunday School. Everyone claps.>
> > Fast forward 10 years, and you hear that the kid who entered college
> > just left the faith because they now believe in evolution.>
> > Who's to blame, the evolutionist who is teaching the lie of evolution,
> > or the church who says that evolution is a lie?
> >>
> Glenn Morton has made the claim many times that it is the YECs who are
> to blame, along with those in the church who swallow their stuff. He
> has at least strong anecdotal evidence to back his claim.
>
> I have but one example -- a high school close friend who was a
> witnessing Christian whem I was not -- who lost his faith in college
> when he found out the YEC stuff he believed was wrong. Dick went on to
> a career as an executive with Pitney Bowles (sp?) and is now retired,
> living in Florida, a confirmed atheist.
>
> I think (and pray) for him on occasion. Sad.
>
> > I'm thinking more about this because I'm offering to teach a class at
> > church, and am anticipating the push-back... I think there is a faction
> > that wants to keep everyone in slumber.
> >
> I hope you are successful. I have taught such a class several times
> (see my web site for material). On the last occasion the regular
> teacher was (and probably is) a YEC. But she was willing to at least
> give me equal time (three weeks).
>
> Burgy
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