RE: [asa] Who's to blame for the lost ones?

From: Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
Date: Thu Jun 05 2008 - 10:45:02 EDT

Burgy:
" I hope you are successful. I have taught such a class several times
(see my web site for material)."

I'm proposing to teach a class on the three views of the Gen. 1 "day"
that inerrant's hold:
- 24 hr
- day-age
- literary framework

Based on the "three views" book that is in debate format. Although I
accept evolution, I think it is even a stretch just to open the door to
a different view other than YEC.

I think in asking to teach the class, it will ultimately end-up in a
discussion with one of the pastors and/or elders... which is valuable in
itself. My fear is that they will opt for slumber- wanting to avoid
controversy. They don't really teach anything on origins. They have
many Pastors at the church, with a range of belief, some YEC and likely
all sympathetic, at least, to YEC.

...Bernie

-----Original Message-----
From: j burg [mailto:hossradbourne@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:32 AM
To: Dehler, Bernie
Cc: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] Who's to blame for the lost ones?

On 6/4/08, Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com> wrote: (in part)

> Imagine this, you hear a report at church that 10 kids accepted Christ
> in the 3rd grade Sunday School. Everyone claps.>
> Fast forward 10 years, and you hear that the kid who entered college
> just left the faith because they now believe in evolution.>
> Who's to blame, the evolutionist who is teaching the lie of evolution,
> or the church who says that evolution is a lie?
>>
Glenn Morton has made the claim many times that it is the YECs who are
to blame, along with those in the church who swallow their stuff. He
has at least strong anecdotal evidence to back his claim.

I have but one example -- a high school close friend who was a
witnessing Christian whem I was not -- who lost his faith in college
when he found out the YEC stuff he believed was wrong. Dick went on to
a career as an executive with Pitney Bowles (sp?) and is now retired,
living in Florida, a confirmed atheist.

I think (and pray) for him on occasion. Sad.

> I'm thinking more about this because I'm offering to teach a class at
> church, and am anticipating the push-back... I think there is a
faction
> that wants to keep everyone in slumber.
>
I hope you are successful. I have taught such a class several times
(see my web site for material). On the last occasion the regular
teacher was (and probably is) a YEC. But she was willing to at least
give me equal time (three weeks).

Burgy

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