Re: [asa] An evolution quiz question about "Scientific creationism "

However, YECs are not consistent. When some discovered that the ark could
not have room for all the species and sufficient food, they proposed that
only one species from each genus or family was on the ark. But this
requires quicker evolution than has ever been proposed by normal science.
Abraham had asses about five or six centuries post Flood; Joseph, horses.
The Romans had zebras in about two and a half millennia.
Dave (ASA)

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:31:05 -0400 Collin R Brendemuehl
<collinb@brendemuehl.net> writes:
Iain,

Micro and Macro are used in mainstream science.
Gould explores them in The Structure of Evolutionary Theory.
But YECs seem to treat them differently. For YECs "micro" implies
(depending on the group or person) either static species or at best short
trees
whereas "macro" describes something that never happened.
(I've not heard anyone talk of static species for along time now.)

At 03:39 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote:

I think that's a really strange question, and quite a strange answer.

I had understood that "microevolution" and "macroevolution" were terms
used a lot by creationists, but not in mainstream science. Also the
way it's phrased "patterns of change among different groups of
species" doesn't sound that different to what creationists argue -
microevolution they accept within the different created kinds.

To achieve the terminology "macroevolution" (I presume the asterisk
means that is the author's indication of the correct answer), implies
evolution of one species into a different species via some common
ancestor. The phrase "among different groups of species" doesn't
quite capture that for me - more likely "giving rise to different
groups of species".

Iain

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
wrote:
> I thought I'd pass on something interesting. I have this "book" (study
> guide):
>
> "The Ultimate Study Guide for Biology: Key Review Questions and Answers
> with Explanations" Copyright 2005
>
> Link:
>
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Study-Guide-Biology-Explanations/dp/19330
> 23015/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212474316&sr=8-4
>
> Comments about this part? The following is a quote... question and
> comment by author:
>
> Pg. 6
> 25. Patterns of change among different groups of species over a certain
> time period is most closely referred to as:
>
> a. microevolution
> *b. macroevolution
> c. scientific creationism
> d. survival of the fittest
>
> Microevolution shows how a specific population changes over time due to
> modifications in allele frequencies. Scientific creationism is a
belief
> that the beginning of earth and life was created by God. Also,
> scientific creationism does not believe in Darwin's theory of
evolution.
>
> Bernie's comment:
> It is interesting how the author uses "Scientific creationism" to
> describe what I think we would term as "young earth creationism."
>
> It says:
> "Scientific creationism is a belief that the beginning of earth and
life
> was created by God." But all creationists believe that God created
> everything- even TE's which accept evolution.
>
> I guess I have to give it credit for at least saying something- some of
> the questions have no comments, but the author felt compelled in this
> one to give a little explanation.
>
>
>
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