Re: [asa] YEC cosmology question: astro shows

From: David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com>
Date: Thu May 22 2008 - 15:21:49 EDT

Jewish author and MIT Prof. Gerald Schroeder does something similar in
Genesis and the Big Bang: http://www.geraldschroeder.com/gbb.html

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Randy Isaac <randyisaac@comcast.net> wrote:

> I heard one YEC answer a couple of weeks ago when I learned there was a
> Creation Seminar at a local church and I decided to invest a couple of hours
> to listen. This speaker said the following: time = distance/ speed. First
> we considered the distance measurement to be wrong but now we know that
> objects really are that far away. Then it was considered that the speed of
> light used to be much faster, thus accounting for the discrepancy, but now
> we know that c has remained constant. So we must consider time and this is
> where Einstein's general theory of relativity saves the day. Time slows down
> in a gravitation field, says he. Put this together with Humphreys' white
> hole cosmology and the idea that we have a geocentric universe where the
> highest gravitational field is at the center of the earth, then we can see
> that time is much slower on earth than it is in the stellar regions. Hence,
> all is consistent. It only took 6,000 years for light to travel 13 billion
> light-years because time speeds up out there where the gravitational field
> is so weak. And he pointed out a new book by John Hartnett published in 2007
> that resolved any remaining concerns with white hole cosmology. Here's the
> blurb:
> Randy
>
> *NEW: Starlight, Time and the New Physics: *Starlight Traveltime—Solved!
>
> *<http://www.americanvision.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1760>by
> John Hartnett, Ph.D. *
>
> Many still doubt the Bible's clear timescale because, they think, it is
> impossible for light to have reached Earth in only a few thousand years from
> stars that are millions of light-years away. This is often the ultimate
> stumbling block to belief in the Bible and its salvation message.
>
> In this exciting new book, physics professor John Hartnett, inspired by the
> pioneering work of creationist Russell Humphreys, and building on the work
> of secular cosmologist Moshe Carmeli, shows how the answer to the 'starlight
> travel-time problem' falls out of the same equations that undermine many of
> the props for big bang thinking.
>
> The main text is easily digestible for the intelligent layperson, with a
> supporting series of technical appendices for the specialist.
>
> *Paperback, 150 pages*
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
> *To:* asa <asa@calvin.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:28 PM
> *Subject:* [asa] YEC cosmology question: astro shows
>
> Yahoo news yesterday reported that astronomers have observed a star
> explosion (super nova):
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080521/sc_nm/supernova_dc_1
>
>
>
> Excerpt:
> Soderberg's team looked across space and time to witness the death throes
> of supernova 2008D, found in one arm of the galaxy NGC 2770, 88 million
> light-years from Earth.
>
>
>
> How do YEC's deal with that statement that it is 88 million light years
> from earth? I know they think time and light can be warped, or light
> doesn't behave in the past as it does now, but a difference of 88 million
> compared to 6,000 (their age for the universe)??? Do they simply avoid the
> issue? So modern science thinks this actual explosion happened around 88
> million years ago… when do YEC's think it happened?
>
>
>
> …Bernie
>
>

-- 
David W. Opderbeck
Associate Professor of Law
Seton Hall University Law School
Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology

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