RE: [asa] YEC cosmology question: astro shows

Though I haven't read much about the YEC view, I have had a few discussions
where they suggest these vast distances are legitimate, but the time it
takes light to reach us is less than the 6000 year limit. Light, in this
view, is either faster when afar or was much faster in the past. The latter
view is the predominant view of these two.

I've also heard that the universe isn't bigger than 6000 years. I recall
this from a lengthy thread with a probable co-author of the book Galileo Was
Wrong. The discussion centered around the surprisingly accurate statement
that General Relativity allows the Earth to be considered the center of the
universe. In other words, if the entire universe were rotating every 24
hours about the Earth, or more specifically about me (Georgecentricity), the
net behavior of things would be identical to what we see today. The error
here is to allow any one point to be considered an absolute center. GR
demonstrates that any point will work just as well as a Geocentric model
(capital G for an absolute center view, as opposed to geocentricity).

However, there is several major problems with this view of theirs, including
the YEC view of the thread debater.

1) Using quasars as markers, changes to the rotation rate of the Earth
is accurate in milliarcseconds, IIRC. The air masses are so great that the
Earth changes its rotational rate constantly. Large tsunamis also produce
detectable changes to the Earth's rotation rate.

So, in this case, this YEC view of Geocentricity has a lot of dancing to get
around how the entire universe would appear to change its rotation rate
whenever an air mass shifts or a tsunami occurs.

2) A 6000 lyr radius universe is untenable. The GWW thread ended when
I raised the simple question of where he was going to put the 130 billion
galaxies that the Hubble Telescope had recently discovered as a result of
two ultra deep field surveys.

If you wish, I would not mind going to answersingenesis to see what their
latest view is.

George Cooper

From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Dehler, Bernie
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:29 PM
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Subject: [asa] YEC cosmology question: astro shows

Yahoo news yesterday reported that astronomers have observed a star
explosion (super nova):

 <http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080521/sc_nm/supernova_dc_1>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080521/sc_nm/supernova_dc_1

Excerpt:
Soderberg's team looked across space and time to witness the death throes of
supernova 2008D, found in one arm of the galaxy NGC 2770, 88 million
light-years from Earth.

How do YEC's deal with that statement that it is 88 million light years from
earth? I know they think time and light can be warped, or light doesn't
behave in the past as it does now, but a difference of 88 million compared
to 6,000 (their age for the universe)??? Do they simply avoid the issue?
So modern science thinks this actual explosion happened around 88 million
years ago. when do YEC's think it happened?

.Bernie

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Received on Thu May 22 14:36:21 2008