Re: [asa] Keller on Evolution

Moorad

I would second George and I get extremely irritated by your silly comments
on historical science. They exhibit a gross ignorance and misunderstanding
of what science is which includes both the historical and the experimental.
I would suggest that you complete your scientific education and find out
just how scientific and sound historical sciences like geology are.

I may add that I have questions against Keller (from the descriptions) but I
laud what he is trying to do

Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Murphy" <gmurphy@raex.com>
To: "ASA list" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] Keller on Evolution

> Moorad -
>
> This distinction has been debated a good deal here (& in other venues), &
> as I think you know, I think it's a mistake to make it in any hard & fast
> fashion. But let's grant your point for the sake of argument. What does
> it have to do with the truth of the statement about evolution. The claim
> that Julius Caesar was assasinated in Rome in 44 B.C. is then not
> scientific but historical. Do you doubt that it's true? Perhaps you
> would argue that in this case we have "historical records" - i.e., written
> accounts - about the event. But what then about the information that
> archaeologists get from sites where we don't have written records, or at
> least records we can read, like the Indus Valley civilization?
>
> Making proper distinctions is certainly critical but sometimes the
> distinctions aren't proper & are just obfuscation.
>
> Shalom
> George
> http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
> To: "David Opderbeck" <dopderbeck@gmail.com>; "George Murphy"
> <gmurphy@raex.com>
> Cc: "Steve Martin" <steven.dale.martin@gmail.com>; "Ted Davis"
> <TDavis@messiah.edu>; "asa" <asa@calvin.edu>; "Rich Blinne"
> <rich.blinne@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:45 AM
> Subject: RE: [asa] Keller on Evolution
>
>
> One must keep always in mind that statements like "evolution has happened"
> or "evolution is a (historical) fact" are actually historical and not
> scientific statements. Herein lies the whole issue of evolution as
> historical science rather than an experimental science.
>
>
> Moorad
>
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