Re: [asa] Confessional Statements and TE Views

I would say yes -- at least every Catholic who is faithful to the Tradition.

On Jan 19, 2008 11:35 AM, Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net> wrote:

> Does every Catholic believe in transubstantiation (that the wine consumed
> during communion physically turns into the blood of Christ)?
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *David Opderbeck
> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2008 8:02 PM
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> *Subject:* [asa] Confessional Statements and TE Views
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> I'm curious how TE's who are part of a confessional tradition understand
> their confessions with respect to original sin. For example, if you're
> Anglican, CRC, or Lutheran, and a TE who accepts human evolution, can you in
> good conscience assent to your confessional statements concerning original
> sin (below)? Is there a tradition within protestant confessional churches
> of some flexibility in personal interpretation of the confessions?
> (Obviously I'm betraying my very low-church evangelical roots here).
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> For example, the 39 Articles (Anglican / Episcopal) say:
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> *IX. Of Original or Birth-Sin.**
> *Original sin standeth not in the following of Adam, (as the Pelagians do
> vainly talk;) but it is the fault and corruption of the Nature of every man,
> that naturally is engendered of the offspring of Adam; whereby man is very
> far gone from original righteousness, and is of his own nature inclined to
> evil, so that the flesh lusteth always contrary to the Spirit; and therefore
> in every person born into this world, it deserveth God's wrath and
> damnation. And this infection of nature doth remain, yea in them that are
> regenerated; whereby the lust of the flesh, called in Greek, p¢vnæa sapk¢s,
> (which some do expound the wisdom, some sensuality, some the affection, some
> the desire, of the flesh), is not subject to the Law of God. And although
> there is no condemnation for them that believe and are baptized; yet the
> Apostle doth confess, that concupiscence and lust hath of itself the nature
> of sin.
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> The Belgic Confession (CRC) says:
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> *Article 16*
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> *The Doctrine of Election*
> We believe that—
> all Adam's descendants having thus fallen
> into perdition and ruin
> by the sin of the first man—
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> The Augsburg Confession (Lutheran) says:
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> *Article II: Of Original Sin.*
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> *1]* Also they teach that since the fall of Adam all men begotten in the
> natural way are born with sin, that is, without the fear of God, without
> trust in God, and with *2]* concupiscence; and that this disease, or vice
> of origin, is truly sin, even now condemning and bringing eternal death upon
> those not born again through Baptism and the Holy Ghost.
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> *3]* They condemn the Pelagians and others who deny that original
> depravity is sin, and who, to obscure the glory of Christ's merit and
> benefits, argue that man can be justified before God by his own strength and
> reason.
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Received on Sat Jan 19 12:32:09 2008