Re: [asa] Park Street church

From: Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Mon Dec 17 2007 - 02:36:19 EST

Thanks Randy.

I thought you had given me another Anglican clergy who was YEC in about 1910
to add to my tally of one - Griffith Thomas. I have searched for years for
YEC Anglicans and had only found one from 1855 to 1970.

Hague adopts a very literalistic sounding view of Genesis but implicitly
accepts geology as his last paragraph shows ;

The attempt of modernism to save the supernatural in the second part of the
Bible by mythicalizing the supernatural in the first part, is as unwise as
it is fatal. Instead of lowering the dominant of faith amidst the chorus of
doubt, and admitting that a chapter is doubtful because some doctrinaire has
questioned it, or a doctrine is less authentic because somebody has floated
an unverifiable hypothesis, it would be better to take our stand with such
men as Romanes, Lord Kelvin, Virchow, and Liebig, in their ideas of a
Creative Power, and to side with Cuvier, the eminent French scientist, who
said that Moses, while brought up in all the science of Egypt, was superior
to his age, and has left us a cosmogony, the exactitude of which verifies
itself every day in a reasonable manner; with Sir William Dawson, the
eminent Canadian scientist, who declared that Scripture in all its details
contradicts no received result of science, but anticipates many of its
discoveries; with Professor Dana, the eminent American scientist, who said,
after examining the first chapters of Genesis as a geologist, "I find it to
be in perfect accord with known science"; or, best of all, with Him who
said, "Had you believed Moses, you would have believed Me, for he wrote of
Me. But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe My words?"
(John 5:45,46).

All those mentioned were NOT YEC. Dana actually accepted evolution. Dawson
was a geologist etc.

Was Hague writing to the gallery for the Fundamentals?

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: "gordon brown" <gbrown@Colorado.EDU>
To: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: [asa] Park Street church

> Thank you, Randy, for informing us of the existence of these recordings.
> The pastor mentioned an article by Dyson Hague in the Fundamentals as
> advocating the six-24-hour-day interpretation. I looked up his article in
> the Fundamentals on the doctrinal value of the first chapter of Genesis to
> see whether this was indeed the case. I found it to be very much
> anti-evolution, but his position on the days of Genesis 1 was not so clear
> to me. He mentioned that eons of time were part of evolutionary theory. He
> also mentioned that men and animals were created the same day without
> saying how he understood the word day. However he also claimed that some
> geologists saw their science as agreeing with Scripture, and he also said
> that the order of creation in Genesis 1 was the same as that determined by
> science. Now I don't see why anyone who believed in a six-24-hour-day
> creation would care what order science had determined for the order of the
> appearance of different life forms since this would presumably have to be
> based on the fossil record, and that would require enough time for a great
> many creatures to die and be buried in different strata.
>
> Gordon Brown (ASA member)
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, Randy Isaac wrote:
>
>> Many of you may be interested in hearing the three sermon series by Rev.
>> Gordon Hugenberger, sr pastor of Park Street Church in Boston. They can
>> be found at
>> http://www.parkstreet.org/sermon_audio
>> and are the 11/25 12/2 and 12/9 sermons. Hugenberger is an ASA member as
>> is Ann Carpenter who gives her testimony in the 11/25 audio. It's
>> encouraging to hear the pastor of a leading evangelical church take on
>> Dawkins from the pulpit and extol John Polkinghorne, Kenneth Miller,
>> Francis Collins, and Owen Gingerich. Note also how he handles Dawkins use
>> of the poll of how many NAS members believed in a personal God.
>>
>> Randy
>
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