Re: [asa] Does the flagellum prove Genesis?

Actually it is more correct to say that ID goes back to the Chicago
Conference on Inerrancy in the 70s as Bradley and Olsen sought to find a
place for OEC in the Chicago decision which denied evolution. And then
Bradley, Olson, and Thaxton published The Mystery of Life's Origin (1984).
They sought to keep within Chicago rather than oppose materialism.

Later as ID developed it was extended to fight so-called naturalism with
Johnson et al

Michael

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From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
To: "Randy Isaac" <randyisaac@comcast.net>; <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: [asa] Does the flagellum prove Genesis?

>I do agree that ID did begin as countering materialism and so it certainly
>appeared as a negative since it was fighting Darwinism in the philosophical
>plane. I have always said that everyone that is doing good science is an ID
>proponent. Good science is the result of intelligence and rationality in
>the scientists themselves. Is not intelligence and rationality then
>somewhat encrusted in the structure of Nature? Paraphrasing John 3:6, "that
>which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit
>is spirit," that which is born of intelligence is intelligence.
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> Moorad
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> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu on behalf of Randy Isaac
> Sent: Sat 12/8/2007 10:30 PM
> To: asa@calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: [asa] Does the flagellum prove Genesis?
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> I have encouraged my ID friends, who keep saying that ID is not a negative
> approach but a positive indicator of design, to really pursue that
> direction. I have urged them to identify a specific example that is not
> negative or anti-evolution but is nevertheless a positive indication of an
> intelligent design in their opinion. I'm still waiting. Perhaps you could
> help provide one?
>
> Randy
>
> P.S. Hint: I do have a list of candidates in mind.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Walley <mailto:john_walley@yahoo.com>
> To: 'Dehler, Bernie' <mailto:bernie.dehler@intel.com>
> Cc: asa@calvin.edu
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 4:18 PM
> Subject: RE: [asa] Does the flagellum prove Genesis?
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> Thanks!!! This nails it for me. The problem with ID is that instead of
> being just pro-design, they went negative and anti-evolution.
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