RE: "Hidden" Theological Issues with Theistic Evolution (was Re: [asa] E.O. Wilson "Baptist No More")

Just like with Flew, ultimate conversion doesn't matter and it doesn't
matter that he was a pagan either.

The important point was that in spite of either a theological or human
reason based epistemic foundation, he had a spiritual encounter and
recognized it as being from a god, whether the Christian God or not. This
was my point all along.

Everybody but fools knows this and believes in some God. The atheists are
just deniers.

John

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From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. [mailto:dfsiemensjr@juno.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:14 PM
To: john_walley@yahoo.com
Cc: dopderbeck@gmail.com; bernie.dehler@intel.com; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: "Hidden" Theological Issues with Theistic Evolution (was Re:
[asa] E.O. Wilson "Baptist No More")

This interpretation is common, but the definite articles are not in the
Greek text in Matthew 27:54 and Mark 15:39. Therefore, a proper translation
is "Surely this man was a son of a god," the remark of a pagan. Luke 23:47
says that the centurion praised the God, but records his statement: "Surely
this was a righteous man." It is difficult to establish that this language
demonstrates conversion.

Dave (ASA)

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:56:48 -0500 "John Walley" <john_walley@yahoo.com>
writes:

David,

,snip>

The Centurion at the cross is another good example. "Surely this man was the
Son of God" is another non-theology and non-reason based conversion simply
because he witnessed the forgiveness of Jesus to the thief on the cross with
him and the sky turning black after His death. There is no other way to
describe this other than spiritual instinct.

<snip>

Thanks

John

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Received on Mon Dec 3 08:48:36 2007