RE: [asa] E.O. Wilson "Baptist No More"

From: John Walley <john_walley@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Nov 27 2007 - 22:04:11 EST

Not to mention that they have had a wedge driven between them and science by
the Bible thumpers who view it all as the work of the devil instead of
affirming the creation of God. And in our increasingly technical and
scientific world, this only adds to the disservice they are doing to the
Body.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Dehler, Bernie
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:31 PM
To: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: RE: [asa] E.O. Wilson "Baptist No More"

I have a friend who has been preaching for years and heads-up a teaching
ministry. He believes the Bible is inerrant. I talked to him about
theistic evolution, and he basically pleaded ignorant of it and the
science behind it (biology, etc.), but he felt compelled to take the
Genesis account as literally as possible (his position is probably a mix
of YEC and OEC... mostly YEC). I think at the root of this is ignorance
of science by the vast majority of the population. It isn't so much
their fault, I think, as science has exploded (in scope and knowledge)
in the last 50 years.

I run across many Christians like this. They have their beliefs... why
bother considering evolution? Evidence? I don't want to hear it...
don't mix me up... it doesn't matter...

...Bernie

-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of George Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:06 PM
To: mrb22667@kansas.net
Cc: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] E.O. Wilson "Baptist No More"

What I mean is that many clergy, especially in mainline churches,
"accept"
evolution just because they've been told that it's true, but know little
or
nothing about the science that's involved. & questions about creation &

evolution play little if any role in their theology - & a fortiori in
their
preaching & teaching - because what's essential about Christianity is
salvation & sanctification. Thus they give their congregations little
instruction about these matters & are ill-prepared to answer questions
about
them. Their attitude is, "Sure, it's OK to accept evolution" but they
don't
realize that there are serious theological issues raised by evolution
beyond
the elementary question of whether or not early Genesis has to be read
literally.

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/

----- Original Message -----
From: <mrb22667@kansas.net>
To: "George Murphy" <gmurphy@raex.com>
Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] E.O. Wilson "Baptist No More"

Quoting George Murphy <gmurphy@raex.com>:
> ... & the reason clergy
> don't have any problems with evolution is often because they don't
really
> understand it & don't take the trouble to learn.

If you meant that the way it sounded, then I'm curious to see how you
would
expand on this. Was this about their avoidance of the *problem* of
dealing
with it at all? The context suggests this, but I just wanted to be
sure.

--Merv

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