Re: [asa] ORIGINS: pseudogenes are overwhelming evidence for evolution...?

 Imagining that the universe is infinite in both space and time (not a particularly
novel suggestion) would imply the creation of all infinite spans of the universe
from some vantage outside of the constraints of any of those same parameters.

 Infinite space and time would be established and provided allowing for what appears
to us cloistered in its nearest reaches be an endless panoply of possibilities, when
actually we are but the barest riffle in its ebb and flow.? Our presumptions on Creation
are, in all likelihood, so laughably naive relative to the truth of it that surely they must
all be equally absurd, including any I might offer in preemption of the notion.

Yours in equal absurdity,

 -Mike (Friend of ASA)

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From: philtill@aol.com
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Sent: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: [asa] ORIGINS: pseudogenes are overwhelming evidence for evolution...?

Unless the creation was instantaneous, the same problem arises.

That's a good question.? Why would God make a creation using any process or time at all?? Why start with a world that is formless and void rather than making it perfectly complete from the start??

For that matter, why stop at questioning the past when we can also question the present:? why did God bother to make a universe that operates according to natural processes in the present?? Why didn't God just sit us down in a supernatural classroom in Heaven where we can see Him directly?? Why bother with all this gravity and thermodynamics, etc.?

I have always assumed the answer is that God "hides from the wise" and reveals himself to babes.? He also sends a "stong delusion" on those who do not love the truth.? He "speaks in parables" and tells Isaiah to render the people unhearing lest they believe and return.? The world itself can be seen as an extended parable.

If God made a world without a process, or if he did not make a world at all,?then He would be a pretty poor hider and all his parables would fail.? I think the purpose of this world of natural processes is to separate us from the immediacy of God so that we can be ignorant until the time that we are called to repent and return.? I assume angels do not repent precisely because they do not live in a universe separated from the immediacy of God, and hence their rebellion was already complete when it first occurred.? But we were made to be able to repent, and so we live in physics where we do not see God face-to-face.

Also, I think the ingenuity of the physics that provides these processes does tell us about the glory of God.? If we couldn't tell that the process had actually occurred, then we wouldn't have the fun of discovering God's ingenuity in physics.

those are the only explanations I can think of.

Phil

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