Re: [asa] Richard Dawkins, atheism, and religious liberty

From: PvM <pvm.pandas@gmail.com>
Date: Fri Apr 27 2007 - 19:55:10 EDT

Moorad Wrote
>Dawkins is so out of his mind that if he were in power he would ride
the world of all
> believing Christians. The Spanish Inquisition would be child's play compared to what
> Dawkins would have accomplished with his hate for God.

Quite an accusation, I wonder if you can support it? Is this from a
Christian perspective? Based on what evidence? I'd suggest that your
comments are a bit out of line, and certainly lacking any supporting
evidence.

On 4/27/07, Rich Blinne <rich.blinne@gmail.com> wrote:
> I heard a radio interview first hand that gives credence to Ted's
> interpretation. My take is that Dawkins doesn't "get" American sensibilities
> specifically dealing with the First Amendment. He casually mentioned that
> parents don't have the right to raise their kids with respect to religious
> instruction and then alluded that the children ought to be taken away from
> them because it was child abuse.

I'd love to get a reference to that interview.

> > Quite right, Pim, I am giving benefit of the doubt here to the author of
> the
> > article, as you are to Dawkins. We've both read some Dawkins, and I'm
> > inclined not to doubt the author of the article. However, if you can show
> > me why I ought to doubt that Dawkins believes what he is said here to
> > believe about religious education of children and about religion being a
> > virus that should be quarrantined, than I am all ears.

So in other words, you have little to support your statement and are
suggesting that your accusations towards Dawkins are similar to me
giving him the credit of the doubt, especially since I myself have
first hand experienced how views of what one believes Dawkins has said
and what he really said can be quite at odds.

I hope you remember your claim about Dawkins. However, the article to
which you referred has sufficient reason for skepticism.

I'd love to see some relevant references to support your viewpoint but
I guess this may be too much to ask.

Remember your claim?

<quote>This is the type of thing that makes me wonder how Pim can
possibly defend
Dawkins--how can anyone see Dawkins as not a hater of religious people? He
simply wants to take away fundamental religious liberties.</quote>

What exactly does Dawkins propose that leads you to this conclusion?
Does Dawkins hate religious people, does he want to take away
fundamental religious liberties? Can you provide some of Dawkins'
statements that lead you to such a conclusion?

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