Re: [asa] Letter to thinking Christians (and other theists)

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From: "PvM" <pvm.pandas@gmail.com>
To: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
Cc: "David Opderbeck" <dopderbeck@gmail.com>; <Dawsonzhu@aol.com>;
<asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [asa] Letter to thinking Christians (and other theists)

> While Denyse may not answer to the group, she has updated her posting
>
> <quote>Note: A reader has kindly advised that in the first paragraph
> above, the quoted author (George Murphy) is quoting someone else. I
> didn't notice an attribution. My focus, however, is the readiness with
> which the fans of Christian Darwinism flirt with dispensing with a
> supernatural component in the human being. I am afraid that I have
> never heard of an orthodox theology of the cross (an interest of
> Murphy's) that denies humans a supernatural component. That is,
> however, a pillar of orthodox Darwinism. I think that what Murphy, his
> quotee, and many on the ASA list from which this sample was taken
> clearly demonstrate is the slow rot of non-materialist understanding
> of life that any long and close embrace of Darwinism brings about.
> Mind you, I expect them to want to discuss just about anything
> else.</quote>

What Denyse wants to discuss anything else besides is theology. Her
incompetence in this area is shown by her statement on p.244 of her book _By
Design or by Chance_ that a "Christian evolutionist" "must be content with a
God who is /not/ there, except as an emotional experience."

I have seen no indication that she knows anything about "an orthodox
theology of the cross." The argument which I suggested can be fleshed out
fairly simply. The hiddenness of God implied by a robust theology of the
cross means that the world can be understood "though God were not given,"
and thus without appeal to the supernatural. She could look at Bonhoeffer
or Juengel if she wanted to understand this.

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/

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Received on Mon Apr 16 12:11:46 2007