Re: [asa] Letter to thinking Christians (and other theists)

From: Jack <drsyme@cablespeed.com>
Date: Mon Apr 16 2007 - 07:00:53 EDT

Dave, I hate to mention this, maybe there was a problem with your posts appearing on their site, but there are five long posts in a row from you that are repetitive, maybe that is why you were removed? On the other hand the posts are still there, and a post that you made after he said you were removed is still there so go figure.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: David Opderbeck
  To: Dawsonzhu@aol.com
  Cc: pvm.pandas@gmail.com ; asa@calvin.edu
  Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 11:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [asa] Letter to thinking Christians (and other theists)

  Well, finally the other shoe dropped -- Bill Dembski removed me from the UD discussion. I invite you all to take a look at what I wrote and determine for yourselves whether it was warranted. It's really too bad --I'd like to have added something to the discussion of secondary causes, which, in typical fashion, is getting botched by Bill's and Denyse's sycophantic commentators.

  Shame on you, Bill, for letting this travesty of a post be published and for removing me as a result of a comment based on what actually transpired here on the ASA list and on a theological point about Aquinas. You are losing whatever battle it is you're fighting, and this kind of thing is why.

   
  On 4/15/07, Dawsonzhu@aol.com <Dawsonzhu@aol.com> wrote:
    Within Denyse O'Leary's screed,

      What you need to ask is a much simpler
      and entirely determinable question: Is this stuff compatible with your
      spiritual tradition? If not, recognize the situation for what it is:
      undermining from within

    Hmmm, "spiritual tradition".... as in what, which
    whose, where?

    I don't think Calvin dwells much on what a soul is
    does he? He usually seemed to have the good sense
    to stay out of meddling in matters well outside his
    understanding of law, scripture and theology. It seems
    to me, we might do well to follow such examples.

    At any rate, the one lesson we should understand by now is that
    we don't know what the soul is and therefore, we are currently at
    a loss on how to mesh it together with our scientific investigation
    of the mind. Better that we learn to accept that we don't know how
    to put it together, than to shout vociferously empty claims of such
    knowledge and take the high and foolhardy road to thorough
    destruction.

    by Grace we proceed,
    Wayne
         

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