Re: [asa] Re: Dialogue and the bond in Christ

On 4/1/07, PvM <pvm.pandas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 3/31/07, James Mahaffy <mahaffy@dordt.edu> wrote:
>
> > Remember too that ID is a big tent. Some of the leadership believes in
> > common descent. But then you really don't want to know about some of
> > the flavors do you? You have already made up your mind.
>
> I am very familiar with the flavors of beliefs of ID proponents, and
> the observation is irrelevant to my observations about ID being
> disinterested in discussions about the scientific relevance of their
> contributions, instead focusing on the goals of its founders as
> described in the Wedge.
>
> I am also looking forward to a dialogue with people like Dawkins,
> rather than accusing him of hateful bigotry

No need to make accusations - Dawkins's words speak for themselves:

The old testament God is ...
"arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of
it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty
ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal,
genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic,
capriciously malevolent bully"
   ( From "The God Delusion").

Then again there is Dawkins's frequent reference to believers as
"Faith-heads". But as you like to use insulting language like
"Scientifically Vacuous" I guess you don't find Dawkins insulting or bigoted
in spite of the evidence in front of your nose.

In any case, you're inconsistent. In one case you say "what's so good about
dialogue" and in another case you say you want to dialogue with Dawkins.
Make your mind up.

Iain

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Received on Sun Apr 1 03:49:57 2007