Re: [asa] Mandatory HPV vaccination

Just a quick note: I am currently in Austin, TX visiting my sons and daughter
in law. I have been watching the news channels to see if they will say
anything about this. So far nothing. There is also a debate on school vouchers
raging in TX, so that may have some influence. My daughter in law claims that
there are something like 62 varieties of HPV and this vaccine just protects
against 4 of them.

Possibly something Jack (I believe it was Jack) said the other day may be
driving the governor: The chance to eradicate this cancer.

--- Jack <drsyme@cablespeed.com> wrote:

> Which is why I find the other aspect of this topic interesting. That is
> that Perry, a conservative Christian, is making this executive order,
> alienating a large number of his supporters. Why do you think he is doing
> this?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Opderbeck
> To: Jack
> Cc: Bill Hamilton ; asa@calvin.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 9:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [asa] Mandatory HPV vaccination
>
>
> Jack, I think you're right that in itself, this executive order won't
> likely influence girls to have sex. Probably many young girls won't even
> know what sort of shot they're getting. In a more general sense, it could be
> argued that a law like this is one signal among many concerning social norms
> about sex. Though this particular law might not have a major impact on
> behavior, it could be yet one more way in which our legal culture contributes
> to a norm of permissive sexuality.
>
> In my view, the more important objection is that this law unnecessarily
> impinges on the sphere of the family concerning a sensitive issue of
> sexuality.
>
>
> On 2/6/07, Jack <drsyme@cablespeed.com> wrote:
> Yes I agree with your statement, especially pointing out the distinction
> between this vaccine, and others that are more casually transmitted. The
> argument for "herd immunity" does not apply in the same way here.
>
> However, I find the argument that such a vaccine would interfere with a
> message of abstinence somewhat flimsy. After all, this vaccine is supposed
> to be given to girls before they become sexually active. I find it hard to
> believe that once they would be able to partake in sexual activity, that
> having this vaccine would be part of their decision making at the time. That
> just seems absurd.
>
> Apparently, familys would be able to opt out, for pretty much any reason.
> But is that really the best way to go about this?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Opderbeck
> To: Bill Hamilton
> Cc: drsyme@cablespeed.com ; asa@calvin.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [asa] Mandatory HPV vaccination
>
>
> I think the problem is the mandatory nature of this executive order.
> Mandatory vaccinations for schoolchildren are appropriate for communicable
> diseases that are transmitted by ordinary social contact. It seems very
> different to me to require that kids be vaccinated against an STD. It does
> seem like the kind of thing families should decide for themselves. I could
> see maybe making state funding available for any family that chooses the
> vaccine.
>
>
> On 2/6/07, Bill Hamilton <williamehamiltonjr@yahoo.com > wrote:
> My wife and I had a discussion about this and she saw it as an
> invitation to
> girls to be sexually active. I pointed out that the vaccine only
> protected
> girls against cervical cancer, not against other STD's. Still, I
> couldn't see
> the value of it for girls raised in a Christian home who were taught
> not to
> have premarital sex. However, I soon realized that the vaccine
> _would_ protect
> girls/women who
> 1. Were raped
> 2. Married men who were less than honest about their previous sexual
> activity
> 3. Were promiscuous in spite of their training (it _does_ happen)
>
> --- drsyme@cablespeed.com wrote:
>
> > Several states have pending legislation this year similar
> > to the Texas' Govenor's "Executive Order"
> >
> > Lots of potential areas of discussion about this topic.
> >
> > http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/02/02/D8N1PVG80.html
> >
> >
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> Bill Hamilton
> William E. Hamilton, Jr., Ph.D.
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