Re: [asa] dinos

It's good to swim in!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Schneider" <rjschn39@bellsouth.net>
To: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
Cc: "ASA Discussions" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [asa] dinos

> Sorry for the geological booboo.
>
> Crater Lake is also good to sit on the edge of and stare at. Such activity
> induces a calmness that mirrors that of the lake and brings one into
> attention to all of the life and beauty that surrounds it. But unless I
> were a member of the Polar Bear club, I wouldn't swim in it.
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Roberts" <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
> To: "Robert Schneider" <rjschn39@bellsouth.net>;
> <donperrett@theology-perspectives.net>; <burgytwo@juno.com>
> Cc: "ASA Discussions" <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [asa] dinos
>
>
>> Crater lake is a caldera formed when the large volcano blew its top
>> several thousands of years ago. It is not of glacial origin. It is good
>> to swim in
>>
>> Michael
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert Schneider" <rjschn39@bellsouth.net>
>> To: <donperrett@theology-perspectives.net>; <burgytwo@juno.com>
>> Cc: "ASA Discussions" <asa@calvin.edu>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: [asa] dinos
>>
>>
>>> Re Don's note, some Native American flood myths have come to us in a
>>> form that suggests some influence of the Noah story; probably conveyed
>>> by Christian missionaries. I recall one myth from one of the Nortwest
>>> tribes (I can't lay my hand on the book right now to identify it) that
>>> had obvious affinities with the biblical story, but the latter's
>>> features were incorporated into a more ancient framework. Perhaps the
>>> late ice age lake that Crater Lake is a remnant would have been the
>>> original inspiration.
>>>
>>> Bob Schneider
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Don Perrett" <donperrett@theology-perspectives.net>
>>> To: <burgytwo@juno.com>
>>> Cc: "ASA Discussions" <asa@calvin.edu>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:59 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [asa] dinos
>>>
>>>
>>>> Normally I don't get into the YEC/ID discussions. HOWEVER
>>>>
>>>> IMHO I feel that more likely than a direct descendancy from Noah, which
>>>> cannot account for Native Americans being here before the flood, I
>>>> believe
>>>> it is more likely that the flood stories from around the world are in
>>>> reference to past human experiences (tales) of the floods which likely
>>>> occurred at the end of the last ice age which would have been seen
>>>> globally
>>>> but would not have been global. Being that it would more likely be at
>>>> a
>>>> more recent time, it may have been as a result of mountain glaciers
>>>> melting
>>>> rapidly and not the larger glaciers that may have cut the Grand Canyon
>>>> for
>>>> example. Any area in a low land near mountains with remaining ice age
>>>> glacier caps would have experience localized (regional) flooding.
>>>>
>>>> As for the flying dinos, is it not likely that the tales may have
>>>> originated
>>>> from hypotheses drawn from those that found Ptero remains?
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
>>>> Behalf Of burgytwo@juno.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:35 PM
>>>> To: asa@calvin.edu
>>>> Subject: [asa] dinos
>>>>
>>>> AIG recently tossed out the following:
>>>>
>>>> Q: Were dragons just mythological?
>>>>
>>>> A: You may have heard about the flood legends that have come down from
>>>> many
>>>> different people groups around the world, many of which are very
>>>> similar to
>>>> the Bible's account of Noah's Flood.
>>>>
>>>> For instance, the Australian Aborigines, before they even met
>>>> missionaries,
>>>> had stories about a global flood. The stories included many
>>>> similarities to
>>>> the Bible's account. The same can be said of the legends of the
>>>> American
>>>> Indians, Fijians, Eskimos, and other cultures all around the world.
>>>>
>>>> The reason for this is that these people are all descendants of Noah.
>>>> They handed down the story of the Flood to succeeding generations. The
>>>> stories changed over the years, but the similarities to the Bible are
>>>> still
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> The same sort of thing likely happened with dragon legends. These
>>>> stories
>>>> are based on real encounters with real beasts. The stories exist all
>>>> over
>>>> the world, handed down from generation to generation.
>>>>
>>>> What were the dragons? When you read about the descriptions of many of
>>>> these
>>>> dragons in the old history books, you will see that they fit with many
>>>> of
>>>> the descriptions we have today of dinosaurs.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, dragons were probably dinosaurs!
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm going to confess that the first time I saw this argument, it
>>>> argued
>>>> (for me) somewhat persuasively that -- perhaps -- dinos and humanity
>>>> existed
>>>> at the same 6time. The stories in the book of Job reinforced this. Then
>>>> when
>>>> I saw dino tracks in a river in San Rose
>>>> (?) Texas, the credibility increased. Those tracks "looked" fresh --
>>>> not 100
>>>> MY old. (They still do).
>>>>
>>>> So to a limited extent I stll hold a small chance (.01% perhaps) that
>>>> dinos
>>>> did survive into recent times.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, that possibility has nothing to do with the YEC view, I
>>>> think.
>>>> Should a living T Rex be found in -- say -- S America, it WOULD be
>>>> interesting. I keep hoping ... .
>>>>
>>>> Burgy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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