Crater lake is a caldera formed when the large volcano blew its top several
thousands of years ago. It is not of glacial origin. It is good to swim in
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Schneider" <rjschn39@bellsouth.net>
To: <donperrett@theology-perspectives.net>; <burgytwo@juno.com>
Cc: "ASA Discussions" <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [asa] dinos
> Re Don's note, some Native American flood myths have come to us in a form
> that suggests some influence of the Noah story; probably conveyed by
> Christian missionaries. I recall one myth from one of the Nortwest tribes
> (I can't lay my hand on the book right now to identify it) that had
> obvious affinities with the biblical story, but the latter's features were
> incorporated into a more ancient framework. Perhaps the late ice age lake
> that Crater Lake is a remnant would have been the original inspiration.
>
> Bob Schneider
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Perrett" <donperrett@theology-perspectives.net>
> To: <burgytwo@juno.com>
> Cc: "ASA Discussions" <asa@calvin.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:59 PM
> Subject: RE: [asa] dinos
>
>
>> Normally I don't get into the YEC/ID discussions. HOWEVER
>>
>> IMHO I feel that more likely than a direct descendancy from Noah, which
>> cannot account for Native Americans being here before the flood, I
>> believe
>> it is more likely that the flood stories from around the world are in
>> reference to past human experiences (tales) of the floods which likely
>> occurred at the end of the last ice age which would have been seen
>> globally
>> but would not have been global. Being that it would more likely be at a
>> more recent time, it may have been as a result of mountain glaciers
>> melting
>> rapidly and not the larger glaciers that may have cut the Grand Canyon
>> for
>> example. Any area in a low land near mountains with remaining ice age
>> glacier caps would have experience localized (regional) flooding.
>>
>> As for the flying dinos, is it not likely that the tales may have
>> originated
>> from hypotheses drawn from those that found Ptero remains?
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
>> Behalf Of burgytwo@juno.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:35 PM
>> To: asa@calvin.edu
>> Subject: [asa] dinos
>>
>> AIG recently tossed out the following:
>>
>> Q: Were dragons just mythological?
>>
>> A: You may have heard about the flood legends that have come down from
>> many
>> different people groups around the world, many of which are very similar
>> to
>> the Bible's account of Noah's Flood.
>>
>> For instance, the Australian Aborigines, before they even met
>> missionaries,
>> had stories about a global flood. The stories included many similarities
>> to
>> the Bible's account. The same can be said of the legends of the American
>> Indians, Fijians, Eskimos, and other cultures all around the world.
>>
>> The reason for this is that these people are all descendants of Noah.
>> They handed down the story of the Flood to succeeding generations. The
>> stories changed over the years, but the similarities to the Bible are
>> still
>> there.
>>
>> The same sort of thing likely happened with dragon legends. These stories
>> are based on real encounters with real beasts. The stories exist all over
>> the world, handed down from generation to generation.
>>
>> What were the dragons? When you read about the descriptions of many of
>> these
>> dragons in the old history books, you will see that they fit with many of
>> the descriptions we have today of dinosaurs.
>>
>> Yes, dragons were probably dinosaurs!
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Now I'm going to confess that the first time I saw this argument, it
>> argued
>> (for me) somewhat persuasively that -- perhaps -- dinos and humanity
>> existed
>> at the same 6time. The stories in the book of Job reinforced this. Then
>> when
>> I saw dino tracks in a river in San Rose
>> (?) Texas, the credibility increased. Those tracks "looked" fresh -- not
>> 100
>> MY old. (They still do).
>>
>> So to a limited extent I stll hold a small chance (.01% perhaps) that
>> dinos
>> did survive into recent times.
>>
>> Of course, that possibility has nothing to do with the YEC view, I think.
>> Should a living T Rex be found in -- say -- S America, it WOULD be
>> interesting. I keep hoping ... .
>>
>> Burgy
>>
>>
>>
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