Re: [asa] Rubber Meeting Road -- My Kid in Public School

From: David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com>
Date: Mon Jan 08 2007 - 16:59:15 EST

My daughter's sunday school teacher is a wonderful older woman who has
nothing but the best intentions. She's an artist, not a scientist, and
probably doesn't have any serious theological training. Her views on faith
and science, I'm sure, are just bits of things snatched from here and
there. I would never accuse her of "lying" or do anything to impugn her
reputation in my daughter's eyes, nor would anything productive likely come
from confronting her directly. On the whole, what she's taught and modeled
to the group of 11-year-old girls she has to handle every Sunday is
precious, even if she is misguided on this one point. The balance for me, I
believe, is to give my daughter some fatherly guidance without making this
an issue that would divide her from an otherwise helpful and loving teacher.

BTW, my own mother, bless her heart, would probably agree with the sunday
school teacher. Do I call grandma a "liar" too?

On 1/8/07, Dave Wallace <wdwllace@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> From Wikipedia
> A lie is an untruthful statement made to someone else with the intention
> to deceive. To lie is to say something one believes to be false with the
> intention that it be taken for the truth by someone else.
>
> A true statement may be a lie. If the person who makes the true
> statement genuinely believes it to be false, and makes the statement
> with the intention that his audience believe it to be true, then this is
> a lie (see Jean-Paul Sartre, Le Mur (1937)). When a person lies he or
> she is intentionally untruthful, but he or she is not necessarily making
> an untrue statement.
>
> In general I think words like:
> "I disagree..."
> "I think ... is wrong or even untrue"
> are more helpful and likely to result in discussion. Unfortunately I'm
> unable to always put the above into practice as I should especially with
> those that are very dogmatic. I suspect that at most a very tiny
> fraction of those holding YEC position are in fact liars even though
> their position is false and often very damaging.
> Dave
>
> James Mahaffy wrote:
> > Lets not be so quick to say the pastor and church are teaching lies. I
> > suspect they
> > are opposing a Godless theory of origins that see taught in the schools
> > and to their children.
>
>
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