Re: [asa] climate change severity

 
 
In a message dated 1/5/2007 10:31:00 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
pvm.pandas@gmail.com writes:

... Especially the cherry picking of
facts and the need for 'sound science'...

I've followed 'global warming' articles since the late 80's. I've heard
hysteria (your UCS .pdf URL is one), some facts and lots and lots of opinion.
Yes, it is getting warmer.
 
Most of what I hear from the pro position almost always start by saying
'Most scientists agree that CO2 is causing...' and then start into their own
unique sermon. The biggest missing piece has been the heating of the atmosphere.
This is where 'heat trapping CO2' must keep solar radiation around the
planet. This has been flat or at most shown a mild increase beyond outside of data
collection error. I have also been disturbed by MANY distinguished veteran
climatologist's, through the years, being vilified by obvious activist left
wing organizations such as the Union of Concerned Scientists. See
_http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220_
(http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220) as a published example of this.
 
See also the Denver post rod an alternative source.
Mars finally shows it has a wonder all its own
Form discusses red planet
By Katy Human
Denver Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 10, 2004 -
'Mars' distinctive personality is finally emerging...Michael Malin,
president of Malin Space Science Systems, talked about gullies that may have been
sculpted recently by liquid water; evidence of ancient seas; and the discovery
that the planet's south polar cap of dry ice is losing weight.
"Mars is experiencing global warming," Malin said. "And we don't know why."
So before we limit the number of livestock on the planet and other actions,
lets be very sure of the what the data is saying.
William Gray, the Hurricane researcher/ climatologist says that his 50 years
of experience collecting data does not point to human CO2 as the culprit.
From the Denver Post :
'Gray acknowledges that we've had some warming the past 30 years. "I don't
question that," he explains. "And humans might have caused a very slight
amount of this warming. Very slight. But this warming trend is not going to keep
on going. My belief is that three, four years from now, the globe will start
to cool again, as it did from the middle '40's to the middle '70's."

Both Gray and Pielke say there are many younger scientists who voice their
concerns about global warming hysteria privately but would never jeopardize
their careers by speaking up.

"Plenty of young people tell me they don't believe it," he says. "But they
won't touch this at all. If they're smart, they'll say: 'I'm going to let this
run its course.' It's a sort of mild McCarthyism. I just believe in telling
the truth the best I can.'

 
So please, calm down, wait and see. Changing western civilization for the
sake of 'mild McCarthyism' is not advisable. Besides, China and India (who are
left blameless here) have an unlimited permit for CO2 emissions. How
convenient. And Politically Correct.
 

Regards
,
Jack Jackson

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Received on Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:33:29 EST