Re: [asa] An Evolutionary Theory of Right and Wrong

From: David Opderbeck <dopderbeck@gmail.com>
Date: Thu Nov 02 2006 - 09:01:10 EST

*Remind me again how the bible speaks out on these issues?*
**
The Bible speaks repeatedly about "sexual immorality." The Greek work
"porneia" that is translated "sexual immorality" is a broad term that
encompasses all sorts of sexual relations outside marriage. The Bible's
sexual ethics are clear that sexual relations are a gift given to a
man and
woman in marriage. That has been the teaching of the Jewish exegetes
and of
the Church for millennia. So, it isn't just a matter of my personal
preference; it's a matter of the scriptures and the deepest
traditions of
the Abrahamic faiths.

All of this is before we get to Jesus' summary of the law of love. I
think
I'm on safe ground when I affirm that Jesus' law of love is violated by
enslaving and raping a child.

I can be clear about this: pedophilia and child slavery are immoral
according to the rich ethical tradition in which I participate. The
ethic
to which I aspire is dominated by Jesus' law of love.

What about you, Pim? Can you state clearly on the record that child
slavery
and pedophilia are immoral? Can you affirm without hesitation that
the law
should prohibit such practices regardless of any utilitarian
calculation?

On 11/2/06, Pim van Meurs <pimvanmeurs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:00 PM, David Opderbeck wrote:
>
>> So there may not necessarily be an objection to pedophilia when it
>> passes the moral grammar and the cultural, religious, social etc
>> constraints placed upon this
>> There's not much I can add to this. Thanks for being honest about
>> it. If this is where Hauser and friends lead, count me out.
>>
>
> Remind me again how the bible speaks out on these issues? What does
> the bible say about pedophilia? My guess? Nothing. So how do we as
> Christians oppose pedophilia if there is not necessarily a biblical
> objection to this?
>
>
>
> To argue that the Bible opposes such because it contradicts your
> ethics seems quite meaningless. So why would our innate ethics oppose
> such behavior, even though over time there have been various examples
> of young children being married based on religious beliefs, etc.? Why
> not explore these questions rather than run from them because they
> may hit too close to home?
> Especially when the Bible may not offer much support one way or the
> other to oppose pedophilia either?
>

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