Re: [asa] YEC and ID arguments

Gregory -
 
There are three great overarching truth statements that the science of geology has contributed to the human understanding of life. These are regarding 1) the age of the Earth; 2) plate tectonics; and 3) faunal succession. The plain simple truth is that none of the YEC publications on any of these 3 topics have any credibility whatsoever. Yes, I did say none. I have read many of their works, and after a while it becomes easy to recognize the same old song & dance - a lot of non-sequiter, a healthy dose of ignorance, and a great deal of ignoring the facts. There are no publications by YECs that deal with these issues accurately. Absolutist language might get under your skin, but it Michael's statement is a fact nonetheless.
 
If they don't understand the fundamentals of Earth science, then there is little reason to believe they have the answers when it comes to questions about origins.

Best Regards,
Charles
 
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"To a naturalist nothing is indifferent;
the humble moss that creeps upon the stone
is equally interesting as the lofty pine which so beautifully adorns the valley or the mountain:
but to a naturalist who is reading in the face of the rocks the annals of a former world,
the mossy covering which obstructs his view,
and renders indistinguishable the different species of stone,
is no less than a serious subject of regret."
          - James Hutton
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>>> Gregory Arago <gregoryarago@yahoo.ca> 10/19/2006 3:48 PM >>>

"I have read vast amounts of YEC and ID literature of all sorts. As I unravelled any scientific argument in them (had to be geology as that is my field) I
found that they were ALWAYS marked by inaccuracies..." - Michael Roberts
 
'They,' as the quote makes clear, refers only to YEC or ID arguments in geology (with absolutist language any argument, ALWAYS to boot!). Wouldn't it be nice if YEC or ID had to do only with geology...or with natural science only, for that matter? As if it/they had nothing to do information theory or psychology.

Please excuse if the 'blinded by one's worldview' brush paints both ways, in the sense that TE, ID and YEC all have ideological components - none is entirely neutral, i.e. just the facts without hermeneutics.
 
Ifffff a person could make a case against evolution outside of Michael's discipline of choice, does anyone think he could get outside of his worldview to openly consider it as even a possibility?
 
Sometimes, it really seems necessary to be defend ID and even YEC against TE's when they over-speak themselves (as rarely as that may be) in support of evolutionary universalism.
 
G.A.

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Received on Thu Oct 19 21:03:12 2006