Re: [asa] Re: same-sex marriage

In a message dated 6/16/2006 1:05:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jarmstro@qwest.net writes:
If you are speaking from the perspective of physical attributes, maybe. But
complementary attributes we customarily associate separately with male and
female are quite manifest in many (most? - I can't say from personal experience)
gay couples. The first time I encountered this, I was quite surprised by the
way financial and other matters were subordinated, who did the cooking and
decorating, and basically, how so many familiar heterosexual role dichotomies were
in full bloom. It is precisely the female attributes in a male body that
creates the tensions.
And this is a major issue. Male female role differentiation within one sex.
You talk about it like its natural and a defense for an argument.

"If you are speaking from the perspective of physical attributes" - of
course I am.

Jimmy was an American Indian who worked the baths on the upper west side.
Sold coins and opera records for a living. Couldn't stop working the baths. Knew
it. talked about it and died of AIDS. He was sexually submissive. Completely.
Very female. I knew another one who worked glory holes in the East Village.
Parents were seventh day adventists. He used to joke about how they would die if
they saw him work a glory hole. He died of AIDS too.

I can say from personal experience, living in one of the most concentrated
gay populations in the world that the innocent differentiation you saw is not
what strikes you the most about the "male female" relationship between
homosexual men. It's the dominant/submissive aspect of the relationship, not how
household duties are assigned.

Role playing is not exactly "female attributes in a male body," no matter how
well he plays the role.

There is no argument, regardless of how you try to legitimize it. It's not
natural, and for that reason alone, certainly not religious and never on a par
with marriage between a man and a woman.

Your couple also makes for a very confusing pair of role models.

rich faussette

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Received on Fri Jun 16 09:21:50 2006