RE: [asa] RE: In defense of Paul Seely (Part 1)

Hi Glenn, you wrote:
 
GRM: Dick, you didn't answer the question. I think I know why. I
pointed out that Ernst Mayr believed that even the piths should be in
the genus Homo and possibly even in H. sapiens. Now, you can say what
you want but you didn't define what a human is. Neanderthals made
flutes, Erectines built houses (see Bilzingsleben age 425,000 years
ago). Even the Leakeys believe they found the remains of a hut from 1.6
million years ago. The reality is that evidence of humanity goes way
back beyond your poor timeframe.
 
My timeframe stops at 7,000 years ago when humans finally settled the
Tigris/Euphrates alluvial plain. That is the setting of Genesis may I
remind you. Here's one key in case you missed it. Adam's son Cain
builds the city of Enoch. Over time Enoch becomes E-Anna(k) or E-Anna,
the "house of heaven," near Erech, Sumerian Uruk we today call "Iraq."
The en- prefix in the name Enoch means "king" or "lord" in Sumerian, the
same prefix found in Enlil and Enki who were Sumerian deities. All
these and more I could enumerate are date stamps my friend. The serpent
cult flourished in those days. Sumerian cylinder seals are replete with
serpents. It is no wonder it was a serpent that tempted Eve. It's
right out of the ANE textbook.
 
Give up the anthropology. Genesis is historical. It ties in with
Sumerian and Akkadian history in every aspect. So much so that
Sumerologists consider Hebrew "myth" in the OT as simply derived from
ANE mythology. I'd be tempted to believe them if I wasn't committed to
the Christian faith and convinced that all the stories point back to
events that likely happened.
 
GRM: Dick, you really shouldn't throw stones at my theory that equally
apply to yours. Who would be stupid enough to drown in the Mesopotamian
flood? Walk to the Zagros mountains.
 
That's all the Sumerians had to do. Remember, they had pre-flood kings
and flourished as a civilization after the flood. The Akkadians, who
were Adamites, were located further west, were too far from the
mountains, and weren't so fortunate.
 
Richard Leakey
"'I am increasingly of the view that all of the material
currently referred to as Homo erectus should in fact be placed
within the species sapiens [which would]project Homo sapiens as a
species that can be traced from the present, back to a little
over two million years.'
 
I'll give you two million years. Who cares? That still leaves you
three and a half million years short. Ask Leakey about farm animals and
harps. Or have we forgotten it's Genesis we're talking about. Not
mammalian bipeds.
 
Maybe that is because you haven't studied anthropology.
 
I studied enough to see that Adam was a product of the Neolithic and
couldn't be relegated to the Old Stone Age or a few million years
earlier than that as you think you can do. All your anthropological
machinations are irrelevant. We have a perfectly good Adam tending his
irrigated garden just below the Euphrates River right where the Bible
puts him. If he wasn't a real person, although I think he was, it's
still a good ANE story. Although Inanna's descent to the Nether world
is good too.
 
http://www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr141.htm
 
Note: "She abandoned the E-ana in Unug." E-ana is the "house of
heaven," and Unug is Sumerian for Enoch, the city Cain built. Also, we
have Dumuzi, whom Ezekiel mentions as "Tammuz" (
<http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=eze+8:14&ver
sion=niv&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1> Ezek 8:14), the first god to die
and be resurrected, and snakes. H'mmm, I wonder if Dumuzi was an
Australopithicine?
 
Dick Fischer
Dick Fischer, Genesis Proclaimed Association
Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History
 <http://www.genesisproclaimed.org> www.genesisproclaimed.org

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Received on Wed Jun 14 02:00:47 2006