Re: Is the Hills' flood possible?

From: D. F. Siemens, Jr. <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
Date: Sat Jun 10 2006 - 15:42:28 EDT

OK, I won't mention tipping. Also, it will keep in the middle of a
relatively narrow canal and not run aground. This has to mean that it is
being pushed by angels in place of tugs, but without miracles. Thinking
about everything involved, do you suppose that the windows in the upper
story were really just openings, handholds, so the angels could lift the
Ark above the rain clouds? Did Noah look out and mistake the tops of the
clouds for water?
Dave

On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:46:12 EDT Philtill@aol.com writes:
In a message dated 6/8/2006 11:15:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dfsiemensjr@juno.com writes:
Are you suggesting calm lake waters all the way upstream? Lake or river,
eddy or current, the Ark capsizes. It can't be pushed by a wind on the
stern. Kaput. Finito. Perdido. Fini. Done for.
Dave

Dave, this is not true. In your earlier post you showed that the area
(and hence wind torque) increase as it tips. But saying that this proves
the ark will tip is a one-sided equation.

The other side of the equation is the restoration force from the water.
We all know that as you tip a rectangular boat in the water then there is
a restoration torque from the water, because one side of the boat is
being pushed deeper than the opposite side. I did the calculations and
it turns out that in a 50 mph wind broadside Alan Hill's boat will tip
the ark a grand total of only 0.6 degrees. In a 100 mph wind it is 2.4
degrees. A boat like the one described by Alan Hill will NOT tip over
when broadside by winds of the magnitude that he calculates.

So let's stop discussing the ark tipping. This is NOT a valid critique
of Alan's paper.

best regards,

Phil Metzger
Received on Sat Jun 10 17:05:26 2006

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