RE: Are there things that don't evolve?

Debbie et al -

I don't know if this will knock anyone's sock's off but Dick's right. "The law of increasing disorder (entropy)" holds for closed systems. The disorder (entropy) in an open system - i.e., one that energy & mass can flow into & out of - can decrease & that system can become more orderly. This is at the expense of a greater disorder in the system's environment. Thus you can unshuffle a deck of cards, a fertilized ovum can develop into a baby, & evolution can happen. Of course this doesn't prove that evolution does happen but the 2d law of thermodynamics isn't against it.

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dick Fischer
  To: ASA
  Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:18 PM
  Subject: RE: Are there things that don't evolve?

  Hi Debbie, you wrote:

  Evolution bothers me theoretically because it defies the law of entropy.

  Ah, you've been reading creationist literature. Entropy or disorder is the end result of a closed system. The universe, for example, is a closed system and eventually will run down. Our solar system, however, is an open system. The sun energizes the earth, and until the sun burns out daffodils will bloom in the springtime and entropy will be held at bay. Stick around and George Murphy will give a monosyllabic scientific explanation that will knock your socks off.

  See, you're on the right list.

  Dick Fischer

  ~Dick Fischer~ Genesis Proclaimed Association

  Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

  www.genesisproclaimed.org

  -----Original Message-----
  From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Debbie Mann
  Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:53 PM
  To: Asa
  Subject: RE: [SPAM]RE: Are there things that don't evolve?

  Response to Dick:

  <"Isn't it just inaccurate to use the term "evolution" to mean "change"?

  <It's more accurate to call evolution "descent with modification" if you

  like a nice short definition.

  'Descent'? Doesn't evolve' indicate 'ascent'? Evolution bothers me

  theoretically because it defies the law of entropy. Change by simplification

  wouldn't bother me - but change by complication does. I'd love it if your

  definitiion was the only 'evolution' there was.

  Debbie Mann

  (765) 477-1776

    -----Original Message-----

    From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu]On

  Behalf Of Dick Fischer

    Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:00 PM

    To: ASA

    Subject: [SPAM]RE: Are there things that don't evolve?

    Hi Gregory, you wrote:

    "Isn't it just inaccurate to use the term "evolution" to mean "change"?

    It's more accurate to call evolution "descent with modification" if you

  like a nice short definition.

    Dick Fischer

    ~Dick Fischer~ Genesis Proclaimed Association

    Finding Harmony in Bible, Science, and History

    www.genesisproclaimed.org

Shalom
George
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
Received on Sat Mar 25 07:29:09 2006