Re: Alliance for Science

Yes, you can always find some who will abuse science to perpetuate their
philosophical or religious beliefs.
I wonder if you hold similar opinions about Christians who are trying to
mix their faith in with science in a (not so) subtle manner? I'd say
that much of the ID movement and certainly those at the forefront, are
doing exactly this.
So yes, lets oppose the mixing of philosophies and science.
I have found the whole 'atheists have no morals" a totally flawed
argument as it is based not only on the untenable concept of absolute
truths but also ignores how morals and laws are fluid in many aspects
and serve mostly a societal 'survival' function.
So how does this compare to 'Christian' morals? I could find similar
sites with similar problems. So lets not trivialize the discussion by
pointing out the obvious that some on all sides are abusing in some
manner faith, science etc for their own goals.
Whenever we make choices, we make ourselves a 'threat' to others. The
real solution is not to threaten but to comprehend this obvious fact and
search for ways to work and live together in a most harmonious manner.
Them against us 'thinking' is what has caused us and is presently
causing us much harm and pain.

Do we all agree that those who abuse science to further their religious,
or political goals are doing a disservice?

Matt "Fritz" Bergin wrote:

> I think we have to look at their intentions...if they just want to
> teach science and thats it I have no problem learning from an atheist
> (if they teach good science and that only). Unfortunately I never have
> had an atheist teach science without their philosophy mixed in. This
> guy is trying to be a subtle atheist in his goals of changing society
> so I don't see why any Christians should support this. I think its
> interesting that reading the link that atheism seems to be mostly
> political...do you think that its roots are political and thats why it
> is today? I really doubt that atheist will be successful in convincing
> most people the illusion that they have any morals. I've read the
> humanist idea of morals...it a rambling bunch of nonsense IMO...but of
> course they did include a principle of sex and death and
> also experimenting to find good "morals". Heres a atheist website (I
> find their views on Christianity very funny...they really have no
> clue) that doesn't support the humanist morals or "principles":
> *http://usabig.com/autonomist/humanism.html* it seems that atheists
> can't even agree on what morals to support. Also note that humanists
> principles are all political once they deal with the God issue in the
> first two or so.
>
> ~Matt
>
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Received on Sat Mar 11 16:33:32 2006