On 6/3/05, Terry M. Gray <grayt@lamar.colostate.edu> wrote:
> > >>> Rich Blinne <rich.blinne@gmail.com> 6/3/2005 12:07:41 PM >>>writes:
> >I think you can get some Darwinists to admit this point. If the goal with
> >respect to the public schools was true neutrality with respect to all
> >metaphysical conclusions you might get a consensus. Change your wedge and
> >split the Gouldians from the Saganites. Right now the current strategy
> gets
> >
> >the two camps to ally with each other against a common anti-Darwinist
> >enemy.
> >Most of the current educational proposals, however, have a much more
> >Gouldian flavor and the Gouldians are asking for religious allies. Even
> if
> >
> >we cannot stomach such an alliance at the very least we should encourage
> >that from the outside.
> >
> >Ted replies:
> >The "wedge" strategy is not of my making, and I don't endorse it. I
> accept
> >the general validity of MN, and I agree that public schools should aim
> for
> >true neutrality, though I do not believe that we can really achieve that
> >without allowing parents to pick their own educational philosophies,
> including various religious ones.
>
>
> Ted, Rich,
>
> Your posts high-lighting the "neutrality" goal for public schools
> caught my eye here.
>
> This goal is the heart of the problem. Is it really possible for
> education to be neutral? I don't think so. Thus, education is always
> grounded in some kind of worldview/religious expression.
>
> Perhaps a more pluralistic view of public education is in order. One
> model is that there could be government funding of all sorts of
> schools--Catholic, Evangelical, Jewish, Islamic, New Age, Secular and
> that these identities would be clearly defined so that parents could
> choose the school that most fit with their personal worldviews.
>
> The vision for public education in the 20th century is built in part
> on a liberal humanistic worldview (think Dewey here). The goal was a
> homogenization of the immigrant roots of our society into a common
> vision. This has fragmented significantly in the past several decades
> with the rise of post-modernism.
>
> Perhaps it's time to re-think the whole enterprise.
You may be right about "true" neutrality. But, as long as we have a
monopolistic school system then as neutral as possible is about as good as
you are going to get. Trying to go a cafeteria-style approach seems to
always give the Christian worldview short shrift. At least that is what I am
seeing in Hope's schooling where everybody gets their shot except the
Christians. Since Hope is my daughter even with this setup it still isn't a
fair fight. :-) Terry I am afraid your proposals will produce a bunch of
isolated ghettos and possibly exasperate the already fragmented nature of
our society.
The other thing I want to consider is being anti-Darwinist the warp and
woof of a Christian worldview? Everybody seems to know what are we against,
but what are we for? I think we can draw heavily on Kuyper here but such
full-orbed worldviews don't seem in vogue amongst Evangelicals. Contrasting
the "culture wars" of the early 20th and 21st Centuries show us the
attenuation of Evangelical thought in the last century.
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