Re: ASA, ID, Blogs and my observations

As I have said before, you have to accept all three to be Christian. There
is no way that the resurrection of Christ is anything but type 2.

So, if ASA members are denying the existence of type 2, (which I have not
heard anyone claim despite what Glenn says), then they shouldnt be ASA
members as this is contrary to the ASA statement of faith.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Rusbult" <craig@chem.wisc.edu>
To: <asa@calvin.edu>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: ASA, ID, Blogs and my observations

> Yesterday I returned from an absence (in reading posts on the list) and
> discovered some questions about ASA and ID.
> Much confusion and miscomunication can be avoided if we define (and
> consistenly acknowledge) three types of design. A designed feature
> (object, situation, system, organism,...) can occur due to
> 1A) design of a universe with "fine tuned" natural process so that some
> (how much?) of what God wanted to occur would later occur by natural
> process.
> 1B) divine guidance of natural process, in "natural appearing"
> design-directed action.
> 2) empirically detectable "miraculous appearing" design-directed
> action.
>
> We could define "design" narrowly as design-directed action that is
> empirically detectable (not by undirected natural process) and occurs
> during history, so only #2 is design.
> If we define "DESIGN" broadly, all (1A, 1B, 2) are DESIGN.
>
> It might be useful to use "design" and "DESIGN" like this, or some
> other system might be better in terms of clarity and likelihood of
> widespread use.
>
> What about ASA and "design"? Some in ASA deny supernatural miraculous
> divine design-action (one type of #2) while others think there is evidence
> to support it, or at least raise serious questions. But everyone in ASA
> believes in DESIGN because everyone accepts 1A, and 1B is accepted by many
> TEs and (although its creative importance will vary in the views of
> different people) by all OECs and YECs.
>
> Many recent posts recognize and emphasize these distinctions, and this
> careful thinking will contribute to productive thinking and communicating.
>
> Craig Rusbult
>
Received on Tue May 24 07:07:35 2005