Re: BIBLE- Gen 9:15

Perhaps Vernon and Steven should have a fruitful discussion of this topic
off list since I am not sure that Steven's question had a science aspect to
it (although Steven has an interesting way of phrasing questions that make
them seem odd because they seem to beg for much more context than he gives
them).

Steven has a website: <http://www.bowness.demon.co.uk/>The UK's Leading
Atheist Page
www.bowness.demon.co.uk/

Vernon has a website:
http://homepage.virgin.net/vernon.jenkins/

There is probably much potential for interesting discussions between them
that might not interest the general list because it might not directly be a
science/theology question. If it is, a little explication might help in
framing questions.

At 03:24 PM 3/28/2005, Vernon Jenkins wrote:
>Glenn,
>
>In your view, recently expressed, "One can argue that this passage
>(Genesis 9:15) falsifies the Bible entirely because
>there wasn't a flood to destroy all flesh..." But, surely, the terms of
>the Noahic Covenant seem clear enough: "...the waters shall no more become
>a flood to destroy all flesh." - obviously implying that they once did!
>And believing that they once did is hardly to display a "blind adherence
>to a particular point of view" - for this is _God's revealed word_ we're
>talking about.
>
>Vernon
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Morton" <glennmorton@entouch.net>
>To: "'Steven Carr'" <Steven@bowness.demon.co.uk>; <asa@lists.calvin.edu>
>Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 12:58 PM
>Subject: RE: BIBLE- Gen 9:15
>
>
>>Sorry, but I am always amazed how blind adherence to a particular point
>>of view makes people blind to what a Bible verse actually says:
>>
>>Genesis 9:15 and I will remember my covenant, which is between me and
>>you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more
>>become a flood to destroy all flesh.
>>
>>What is that last word? Why, its "FLESH!" The Bible isn't promising
>>that there won't be more floods. Just more floods to wipe out all flesh.
>>
>>
>>One can argue that this passage falsifies the Bible entirely because
>>there wasn't a flood to destroy all flesh, but one can't argue that it
>>says that there will be no more floods. It just says there won't be any
>>future floods to kill everything.
>>
>>One other take on this verse. If every single animal on the land (eretz)
>>which was flooded by Noah's flood was actually killed, then even the
>>above might not be an objection. In most floods there are survivors.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
>>>[mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Carr
>>>Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:17 AM
>>>To: asa@lists.calvin.edu
>>>Subject: BIBLE- Gen 9:15
>>>
>>>
>>>Is God promising in Genesis 9:15 that there will never again
>>>be a localised, regional flood?
>>>--
>>>Steven Carr
>>
>
Received on Mon Mar 28 20:29:29 2005