RE: More fusillades in the ID wars

I totally agree with what you are saying, which is quite consistent with what I wrote. However, the fundamental question is, Can we do science, say, experimental science, without invoking God the Creator of all that exists? I believe that we can and that our ability to do so is a direct gift from God. However, let us not confuse the human attempt to know by making models of reality with reality itself. In other words, Can theorists create a theory, which is base on purely physical entities and laws that explains the onset of life? Put it differently, can purely physical entities governed by purely physical laws give rise to life without the presence or interference of an intelligent being? I am emphatic that ontological questions demand a Creator. However, such questions are outside the purview of science.

Moorad

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Subject: RE: More fusillades in the ID wars

At 10:49 AM 03/02/2005, Alexanian, Moorad wrote:
>I may be rather naïve, but I do not see how a purely physical system
>governed by purely physical laws can arise to anything that can be
>identified as life. In fact, how does one characterize life in purely
>physical terms? I do not think anyone can. If we are talking science, let
>us not invoke God. If we do invoke God, then everyone can spin its own but
>nothing definite can be arrived at.

Is it then possible that something exists without God's will?
Why should science be excluded from Godd's will and knowledge?
Nothing ever happened (and that includes "evolution") outside God's
will. Even "purely physical laws" are laws created by God, and used by
God, often in ways we do not understand. We can only see and study how the
laws work.
Who are we to decide that God was "intelligent" when he designed the
universe? God made our brains, and now WE decide that He was intelligent
when He designed creation? So we are able to see what God's intelligence
is? We hardly know men's intelligence, and what it can produce. Still, I
do think God did not design our brains in such a way that what we see and
study is not there. So, since nature is designed by God, we may trust that
He is not trying to fool us.

Jan de Koning

Jan de Koning
Received on Thu Feb 3 15:37:15 2005