Re: Cobb County

CMSharp01@aol.com wrote:

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>Modern science is conducted within the philosophical framework of
>methodalogical naturalism, i.e. it makes no assumptions about the existence
>and actions of an omnipotent deity, who by definition can be invoked to
>explain anything, thus nothing. The simple reason why the _supernatural_
>must never be allowed 'a foot in the door' is that it cannot be tested, you
>cannot get a handle on it, and it is just another God-of-the-gaps arguments.
>Methodalogical naturalism is non-theistic, as opposed to philosophical
>naturalism, which is quite different and is atheistic, and states that there
>is no
>God and the physical universe is all there is.
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So, if God did supernaturally acts, then the assumptions of
methodological naturalism are false and the foundations on which
scientific discoveries are based are nonexistent. If God does or did
act in the events of the universe in a supernatural way and science
assumes a priori that such actions are not present, then if they are
present, science will always miss describing the universe or its history
accurately.

If I am looking for the source of a painting, but my philosophical
assumption, let's call it pigmentation naturalism, proceeds from the
framework that will not let personal causes a "foot in the door," and
suggests that the painting was created in a way that its creator can
never be discovered or seen to working, I will never discover the truth
about the nature of the painting or its source. In the same way, if the
scientific framework operates in a framework that does not involve
supernatural causes or events, and such causes or events are truly
present in what is studied, then science will never discover the truth
about what they are studying. They may find some nice theories that can
explain what is going on, just as explaining the painting by claiming it
developed over millions of years of pigment on the canvas. Now science
may discover the mechanism (the millions of years of dropping paint) but
will always miss the whole truth (the artist who dropped the paint from
his brush onto the canvas.

If we a priori exclude the possibility of discovering supernatural
signatures in science, is that really science? How can one claim that
certain types of evidence will always be ignored or interpreted to mean
something else just because of a presupposition of methodological
naturalism?

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>>many statements and actions of our Lord and of the Apostles concerning this
>>particular matter, do you believe this to be a reasonable assumption for
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>> Referring to my thesis you say, " ...it contradicts Rom 1:20, and implies
>>that there is no such thing as objective truth." I suggest you are
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>misreading
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>>this. Paul's statement, surely, is simply this: that there is enough in
>>creation and providence to establish the fact that God is the Creator and
>>that God is the moral governor of this universe; that is why the whole of
>>mankind is without excuse.
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>That is indeed the case, but through looking at nature we can only get an
>idea of how the physical universe is.
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>> Vernon
>> www.otherbiblecode.com
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>Christopher Sharp
>http://csharp.com
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